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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.04 05:39:00 -
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Introduction
I had done a lot of missions for Thukker Mix Corp when I noticed that my Faction Standings with Gallente, Caldari, Amarr and Ammatar had dropped drastically. After doing some research I came up with this 'Plan'. I also noticed quite a few players have posted in the Forums asking 'How to raise Faction Standings' and/or 'Is it possible to have positive Standings with all of the main Factions'? The answer is this 'Plan' and while writing this post I decided to include as much information as I could. Please excuse me if it gets a little off-track.
While working this 'Plan', talk to all the agents and if it's a one part mission that doesn't say storyline and have a good reward, then decline it. Usually the multi part missions are storyline. Always read the Agent mission briefing first and get the mission item before accepting whenever possible. Most of the Cosmos mission items can be bought from contracts if needed. Don't be afraid or ashamed to ask for help. Some of the Cosmos missions as well as the rewards have been changed a little but most of the information is still good in these links.
If anyone has any related or more current guide links, please post them and I'll be sure to update/edit this 'Plan'. Also need walk-thru guide links for all Caldari Cosmos missions and the level 4 Amarr Cosmos missions.
I hope you understand this plan and if started, should be continued until completed so as not to lose any Faction gains you have achieved. When you start doing regular missions again, decline all encounter missions that are against the main Factions. You can do a set of missions (16 + storyline) for each Faction to maintain the standings. Copy, paste and bookmark these links into external computer (Out of game) browser for future reference. Thank you and I wish you all good luck.
= Low Security Status
You need to be able to enter 1.0 High Security Systems to work this 'Plan'. http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Security_status#Security_Status_and_Traveling_Restrictions
Train this skill - Fast Talk
You will have to do some ratting (Kill NPC Pirates) either in Asteroid Belts, DED Deadspace Complexes or Exploration Sites ('Unknown' Cosmic Signatures and/or Cosmic Anomalys). The goal here is to increase your Security Status quickly so you'll want to go after the higher level NPC Pirates (Rats).
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Belt_rat_spawns http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Ratting_tactics (Based on 0.0 Security Systems, Low Security Systems will have about half as many NPC's in the spawn) http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Deadspace#How_do_I_Find_a_System_with_a_Deadspace_Complex.3F http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Category:Complexes
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Exploration_guide http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Apocrypha_probing http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Category:Exploration (Can check gates to 'Unknown' sites while in pod to see ship class allowed)
Once your Security Status is above -2.00 you can now start working the 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' which will be posted next.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.04 05:58:00 -
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Faction Standing Repair Plan
Social, Diplomacy, Connections, Negotiation. (Train these skills to max level as soon as possible)
REMEMBER - All of these agent's missions can only be done once for Faction Standing boost. Do not fail, quit or let these mission offers expire.
Pick the highest unfriendly Faction that you have standing with and do all of the Tutorial/Career Agent missions for that Faction.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Tutorial_Agents
After completing all 15 Tutorial Agent missions and all 15 Career Agent missions, now do the Circle Agent missions.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Circle_Agents
After completing all the circle Agent missions, now do the level 1 Data Center Agent 'Cert' missions. After you have completed the 3rd 'Cert' mission, take one of the certs to the agent listed on the certificate. That agent will give you a multi part storyline mission in which you will meet another storyline agent. After completing all those missions, turn in tags to complete the rest of the level 1 Data Center Agent missions.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Data_Centers
After completing all the level 1 Data Center Agent missions, now do the level 1 Cosmos Agent missions.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/COSMOS_constellation (List of Cosmos Agent locations)
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Amarr_Cosmos_%28Guide%29 (Amarr Cosmos walk-thru guide)
http://www.eve-odessa.com/guides/en/cosmos.html (Minmatar/Gallente Cosmos walk-thru guide)
After completing all the level 1 Cosmos Agent missions, go do all of the above agent missions for that factions ally.
-Allied Factions- Amarr and Caldari Gallente and Minmatar
By now you should have completed all Tutorial, Career, Circle, level 1 Data Center and level 1 Cosmos Agent missions for both unfriendly factions. Now go back to the faction you started with and continue with the level 2 Data Center Agents and the level 2 Cosmos Agents. Then do the same with it's allied faction.
REMEMBER - Always check the standings with all the main factions after completing a set of agents.
You should notice a big difference in the standings now and can continue with the Data Center Agents and the level 3 Cosmos Agents. You might have to stop half way through one factions set of agents and 'Bounce' over to another faction. The faction standings will do a 'sea saw' while working this 'Plan'. You'll have to watch your standings and bounce back and forth between each faction until all are up and you have completed all of the agent missions.
At some point while working this 'Plan' you might not be able to access the next level agent. Don't worry, the answer to that will be posted next.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.04 06:11:00 -
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Faction Standing Repair Plan = Stuck - Can't access next level of agent
While doing this 'Plan', you might get stuck and won't be able to access or continue to the next level of Data Center Agents or Cosmos Agents. If this happens you will have to do some regular NPC Corporation missions (16 + storyline) until you have gained the required Faction or Corporation standing to continue with this 'Plan'.
REMEMBER - Always decline all encounter missions that are against any of the main Factions (Amarr, Caldari,Gallente, Minmatar)
My advice is to do missions for the highest level/quality agent available to you in the Divisions that give a lot of Courier missions because these can be done very quickly. The goal here is to get back to working the 'Plan' asap.
Agent Divisions http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Agent#Agent_Missions (The 100% Courier mission type Divisions in this link is inaccurate, you will also be offered a small % of the other mission types as well)
You can either do missions for the Data Center Agent NPC Corporations or the faction's RnD Corporations which would help you gain access to Research Agents as well.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Research_agent (This has list of all R&D Corporations in each Faction)
Since Cosmos Agents like to send you into Low Security Systems, I decided to include 'Staying Safe' as the last part of the 'Plan' to be posted next.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.04 06:33:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 04/02/2010 06:34:54 Faction Standing Repair Plan = Staying safe - Low and Null Security Systems
Some of the Cosmos Missions as well as Expeditions gained from exploration sites will send you into or through Low Security Systems (0.4 to 0.1) and/or Null Security Systems (0.0). My advice is to use a ship that allows a Covert Ops cloak module to be fitted and make safe spots.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Rookie_Lowsec_Survival_Guide http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Safe_spot http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Traveling_in_Low_Security (Old guide but has some good tips)
(My Advice) For Low/Null Security travel, set up an overview tab with planets, stations and gates showing. This will enable you to select and click very fast without a lot of searching.
If just passing through a Low Security System, your ship will have gate cloak for about 30 seconds after you enter the system. Click on the next gate and select 'Warp to 0km' and then activate the Covert Ops cloak IMMEDIATELY. With high skill level and a good ship fit, you should be going into warp about the time the gate cloak wears off and in less than one second the Covert Ops cloak is on. Watch the cloak module cycle and warp speed indicator. When the ship comes out of warp and the green flashing cycle on the cloak module stops you'll be at the gate, click jump in the 'selected item' box IMMEDIATELY (You'll be cloaked from view while doing the jump).
For a Courier mission to a station in a Low Security System, after entering the system and still cloaked by the gate, click on the station and select 'Warp to 100km' and activate the Covert Ops cloak IMMEDIATELY. When you arrive at the station, stay cloaked, click the 'Look' option on the station and locate which side is the exit for the station. Maneuver your ship (still cloaked) so that it's on the exit side while keeping distance/range from it. Get in line with the exit point of the station at the same elevation (Use the Tactical Screen to get ship aligned) and proceed in a straight line away from it. Do this until the station is anywhere from 500km to 1000km away and then make a Bookmark for your Insta-Undock safe spot. Click the dock option for the station and turn off the Covert Ops cloak while in warp to the station. (If still cloaked the ship will not Auto dock and then you'll have to click dock again after the cloak wears off) For leaving the station, as soon as space shows (After the black screen/session change), IMMEDIATELY right click in space for your Insta-Undock bookmark and select 'Warp to 0'. Your ship should almost instantly go into warp. Activate the Covert Ops cloak while in warp so you'll be cloaked and hidden from scan/view when you arrive at the Insta-Undock bookmark.
REMEMBER - Never warp from gate to gate when in Null (0.0) Security Systems. Warp Disruption Fields (Warp Bubbles) are usually set up in line between and/or around/near gates. Warp to a planet or star first and then warp to 70km to 100km to the next gate and check to make sure no Bubbles are set up. If Warp Bubbles are set up near the gate, maneuver your ship so that it has a clear path to the gate. You can continue going towards the gate at subwarp speed while cloaked or proceed straight away from the gate until the gate is about 200km away. You should then be able to 'warp to 0' without getting caught in the Warp Bubbles. After jumping through a gate and you see Warp Bubbles near you, look for a planet, star or asteroid belt icon that doesn't have the bubbles between your ship and them. Select one and warp to 100km and activate the Covert Ops cloak IMMEDIATELY. If the situation goes from bad to worse and you see a lot of Warp Bubbles and players in the system, just set up a safe spot and Log Out. Just be sure to activate cloak when you log back in
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.06 01:35:00 -
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Thank you all for your input and information. This 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' is exactly what the title says it is. A way to repair bad standings with unfriendly Factions while also keeping the friendly Faction Standings at a positive level.
The reason I didn't include the Epic Arc missions is that they are rather long and the purpose of this plan is to increase the Faction Standings as quickly as possible. After the 'Plan' is completed, you should be able to do the Epic Arc missions. You might have to do a little bit more grinding of regular missions + storyline for the different Factions but your standings should be very close to gain access to those Agents.
As I said in an earlier post, I currently have about 2/3rds of this plan completed and when I finish, I'll be sure to post the results with all of the main Factions.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.08 22:47:00 -
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Just a little background information on my skill level, standings, completed tags and agent types I already had before I started this 'Plan'.
Skills Social = level 4 Diplomacy = level 4 Connections = level 3
Faction Standings Ammatar = -4.89 Amarr = -2.76 Caldari = -0.28 Gallente = +0.25 Minmatar = +7.63 Thukker = +6.87
Pirate Tags Minmatar = Angel Copper, Bronze and Silver. Gallente = Serpentis Copper, Bronze.
Agent type Minmatar = All Tutorial, Career, Circle, 1/2 of level 3 and all lower Cosmos Agents. Gallente = All Level 2 and lower Cosmos Agents.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.09 10:22:00 -
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Yeah, that was just a list of what I HAD already completed before I started working the 'Plan'
When I started working the 'Plan', I trained Social to lv 5, and Connections to lv 4.
I'll post an update of my standings as well as completed Data Center and Cosmos agent missions next time I log on.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Disunia Vertas I'm looking at fixing my standing with the Amarr Empire.. However Amarr is at -6.30 and Caldari at -4.09. How do i start raising these standings? Afaik the tutorial agents only talk to you above -2.0?
All level 1 quality 0 and lower agents are available to everyone now. Train Diplomacy and work the Caldari agents listed in the 'Plan'. After you have completed those, you should be able to bounce over to Amarr.
The 'Plan' will work. Just follow it and you shouldn't have any problems.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.11 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Grimstate Edited by: Grimstate on 11/02/2010 06:25:47 Um I have -6.01 standings with Gal. How do I complete the tutorial agent missions if my ship is blown up every time by their navies? Oh and the Sister of EVE arc missions are in Gal space so that means I cant do that either.
First, Do not accept any more encounter missions against any of the main factions. Second, Train the Diplomacy skill. Also train Social skill.
Hopefully Gallente is the lowest 'Unfriendly' Faction Standing you have. If so, then Minmatar should be the highest 'Unfriendly' Faction Standing. Gallente is allied with Minmatar. If Minmatar is above -5.00, then start working the 'Plan' with Minmatar until you can enter Gallente space.
I hope this answers your question.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.16 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: DeMichael Crimson Just a little background information on my skill level, standings, completed tags and agent types I already had before I started this 'Plan'.
Skills Social = level 4 Diplomacy = level 4 Connections = level 3
Faction Standings Ammatar = -4.89 Amarr = -2.76 Caldari = -0.28 Gallente = +0.25 Minmatar = +7.63 Thukker = +6.87
Pirate Tags Minmatar = Angel Copper, Bronze and Silver. Gallente = Serpentis Copper, Bronze.
Agent type Minmatar = All Tutorial, Career, Circle, 1/2 of level 3 and all lower Cosmos Agents. Gallente = All Level 2 and lower Cosmos Agents.
This is an update on my current statistics from working the 'Plan'.
Skills Social = level 5 Connections = level 4 Diplomacy = level 4 Negotiation = level 4
Data Center (Tags completed) Minmatar = Angel Palladium and lower Gallente = Serpentis Silver and lower Caldari = Guristas Crystal and lower - need Brass Amarr = Blood Crystal and lower - need Gold Ammatar = Sansha Crystal and lower - need Gold
Agent type completed Main Factions = All Tutorial, Career and Circle Agents Caldari = 1/2 of level 3 and all lower Cosmos Agents Amarr = All level 3 and lower Cosmos Agents Minmatar = 1/2 of level 3 and all lower Cosmos Agents Gallente = All level 2 and lower Cosmos Agents
Faction Standings Caldari = +6.30 Ammatar = +5.19 Amarr = +5.08 Minmatar = +3.06 Gallente = +1.95
I will be doing a bit of mission grinding for the Gallente Data Center Agent Corporation (Federation Navy) until I have Corp or Faction Standing of +3.00 for access to the Gallente Data Center Agent (Lv2/Q20) and complete the 'Brass' Tag mission. Then I'll do a bit more mission grinding until I have Corp or Faction Standing of +4.00 for access to Gallente Data Center Agent (Lv3/Q0) and complete the 'Palladium' Tag mission. By then I should have access to the Gallente Cosmos Lv 3 Agents.
While working the Level 3 Cosmos Agents for Gallente, I'll check my standings and will probably have to 'bounce' to Caldari Level 3 Cosmos Agents and then 'bounce' to Minmatar Level 3 Cosmos Agents until I have completed all of them.
I'll be sure to keep you all informed of my statistics while I'm working this 'Faction Standing Repair Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.23 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: GoldenBears DMC, a couple questions:
1) How long (# of missions & time) did it take to bring standing up your latest standings? 2) Did you run courier missions mostly? 3) Do combat missions give better standing than couriers?
1) Well, I started working this 'Plan' about 2 months ago. All the agents - Tutorial, Career, Circle, Data Center and Cosmos - give Faction Standing Boost.
2) The Missions I got from those agents equal out to about half courier and half combat.
3) If grinding for Corporation standings, the Combat missions will give you higher standings faster.
This has a couple of problems though, you'll get offered a few encounter missions against one of the other main Factions which should be declined. The idea is to raise Faction Standings with the least amount of negative standing hit incurred. The encounter missions also take longer to complete than the courier missions. If going for Storyline missions to raise Faction standing then the courier missions is faster.
For about a week now I've been doing regular mission grinding for Gallente Data Center Corporation (Federation Navy) to get the required Corp standing to access the next level of Data Center Agents for Faction Standing boost. I've been doing combat missions for Agents in the corps Command Division. I've had to turn down several regular missions as well as 3 Storyline missions since they were against one of the other main Factions. This is fast for Corp standing but slow for Faction standing. As soon as I have +4.00 Gallente Faction Standing, I'll be able to start working the level 3 Cosmos Agents.
I now have +5.61 with Federation Navy and have accessed a few of the Data Center Agents for Gallente. I'll continue grinding missions for that corp until I have the required corp standing to access the last two Gallente Data Center Agents (+6.00 and +7.00). Hopefully then the Gallente Faction Standing will be high enough to start doing the Gallente level 3 Cosmos Agents (+4.00).
My current statistics.
Skills Social = level 5 Connections = level 4 Diplomacy = level 4 Negotiation = level 4
Data Center (Tags completed) Minmatar = Angel Palladium and lower Gallente = Serpentis Crystal and lower - need Brass & Gold Caldari = Guristas Crystal and lower - need Brass Amarr = Blood Crystal and lower - need Gold Ammatar = Sansha Crystal and lower - need Gold
Agent type completed Main Factions = All Tutorial, Career and Circle Agents Caldari = 1/2 of level 3 and all lower Cosmos Agents Amarr = All level 3 and lower Cosmos Agents Minmatar = 1/2 of level 3 and all lower Cosmos Agents Gallente = All level 2 and lower Cosmos Agents
Faction Standings Caldari = +5.91 Amarr = +4.93 Ammatar = +4.92 Minmatar = +3.39 Gallente = +2.43
The reason for doing Gallente is because Caldari is really high and Gallente is really low. I haven't done any of the level 3 Gallente Cosmos Agent missions yet and I still have half of the Caldari Cosmos Agents left to complete. I can take Caldari Faction Standing down to just above +4.00 and still be able to access those agents.
As I said before, I'll have to keep watch on my standings and 'Bounce' between Gallente, Caldari and Minmatar until all of the level 3 Cosmos Agents are completed.
I'm sorta 'stuck' right now since I decided to finish all of the Amarr level 3 Cosmos Agents instead of doing the 'Bounce'. I had decided it was easier to bring Gallente and Minmatar back up and didn't want to chance not being able to access Amarr again. Besides, Caldari will help bring Amarr up while doing the rest of the Caldari level 3 Cosmos Agents.
I'll post my statistics again after I get back to working the main part of this 'Faction Standing Repair Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 24/02/2010 02:13:03
Originally by: nivinha hi there
First off all , congratz on the great guide
I started doing the data center agents but got stuck with the high prices tags are going . weird stuff is that is easy to buy guristas diamond tags than guristas copper, silver and so on because they are cheaper
i tryed moving along doing some belts but i only got 2 copper tags.
Do you know were are the best places to collect th tags the agent¦s are after.
Thx in advance
Thank you. As for buying the Tags, most of the time the big trade hubs, Jita, Rens, ect will have all of them for sale in the market but most of them will be expensive. Also the regions where the Data Centers are located the tags will also be high priced. If you belong to a private player chat channel or NPC corp chat channel, usually those players will have some and will probably give you a good deal on the price.
Sometimes you might be able to find a deal in the contracts but that's very rare. I check the different region markets (not major trade hubs) while traveling and ask others in corp or player chat channels to do a price check (usually from major trade hubs). If it's a good deal, I'll go to that region or have them buy it for me and place the tags in a private contract to me. If the region I'm in has a better deal, I'll buy them. I even buy them in advance if the price is good and let them sit in station since I know I'll be needing them later.
A couple of times I have placed Buy orders for the tags in Rens which usually takes a couple of weeks to fill. I don't like to pay over 2 mill per tag and definitely won't pay 3 mill or above which is why I'm missing some of the tags. Mainly Brass and Gold.
You can find the tags doing regular missions against Pirate NPC Factions, ratting in the belts, running the DED Deadspace Complexes and also the exploration combat sites found by scanning but that takes a long time and you won't always get the type of tag you're looking for or need.
The markets is the fastest way to get the tags. You just have to decide if you want to pay market seller price or place a buy order and wait for it to fill. Course you'll have to set the buy order price higher than all the others if you want it to be filled quickly. Either way it's faster than trying to collect the tags from the wrecks of Pirate Faction NPC's that you've killed.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.25 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 25/02/2010 02:39:00 Thanks, I hope you haven't accepted the Data Center 'Tag' mission yet. You can always decline it and when you're ready, go talk to the agent again.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.26 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 26/02/2010 04:54:55 Yes, decline them before the mission offers expire, if you haven't accepted yet, just talk to agent again and select 'Decline'. Agent will be disappointed but you won't lose standing and you can always go back later when you have the tags. If you do accept, make sure you complete the mission.
The links/URL's in this thread will give you all the info needed so you can be prepared to complete those missions before you even talk to the agents.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.02.27 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Is it possible to have a plan where my standings (9+) with some factions won't drop to like 5 or so, while rising the opponent factions standings?
Wow, I don't know about that.......yet. Maybe if a brand new character started working this 'Plan' right from the start and completed it, then completed all of the Epic Arc's (SOE and the lv 4's) and also declined all regular combat missions against any of the main Factions, they just might get close to that. Like I said, I don't know.......yet. ---------------------------------------------------
Dacryphile, thanks. I'm not sure how to submit it. Probably after I complete this 'Plan' along with the lv 4 Epic Arc's, I'll look into it.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.03.17 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mather Odile Congrats for your work on that plan, but one thing comes to my mind; Apart from access to all empire systems which can be done with an alt too, what are the benefits of keeping all positive standings? If, as it seems right now, you cant get standings above 4 with all of the factions, you wont have access to L4 and L3 Q20 agents. Is it probably a randomly choosen goal to achive? I recently decided to do all the missions I get offered at least for the next few days, cause I was tired of declining every second mission.
You CAN get standings above +4.0 with all of the main factions which is what this 'Plan' will do if you follow it. I am about 2/3rds done with this 'Plan' and my current statistics are:
Skills Social = level 5 Connections = level 4 Diplomacy = level 4 Negotiation = level 4
Data Center (Tags completed) Minmatar = Angel Palladium and lower Gallente = Serpentis Diamond and lower - need Brass and Gold Caldari = Guristas Crystal and lower - need Brass Amarr = Blood Crystal and lower - need Gold Ammatar = Sansha Crystal and lower - need Gold
Agent type completed Main Factions = All Tutorial, Career and Circle Agents Caldari = 1/2 of level 3 and all lower Cosmos Agents Amarr = All level 3 and lower Cosmos Agents Minmatar = 1/2 of level 3 and all lower Cosmos Agents Gallente = All level 2 and lower Cosmos Agents
Faction Standings Caldari = +5.28 Ammatar = +4.49 Amarr = +4.42 Minmatar = +3.91 Gallente = +3.17
I still have a ways to go until I've completed this 'Plan'. Right now my average Faction Standing is about +4.0 and I still have a lot of the Cosmos Agent mission's left to complete. Add in the rest of the Data Center (Tag) missions as well as the level 4 Epic Arcs along with training level 5 Connections, I'm sure my standings for all of the main Factions will be very high. And yes, this was a goal I had set out to do a couple of months ago when I noticed how Thukker was giving me negative standings to almost all of the main Factions. I also decided (on the side) that I wanted access to all of the high level RnD agents available in Eve.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.03.17 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: OtoBnAggie First of all, thank you for compiling all of this in one place!
I have an easy question. How many times can you run a mission for a faction increase. The reason that I ask this is because I am confused by some of the instructions in your initial post.
I think that I am understanding that it only is beneficial to run the tutorial/career agent missions once. I do not understand where you get 15 and 15 as it seems to be over 40 missions just in one of the three sectors per race. But I think you are saying only run those sets of missions once for each race and I can just pick the closest Solar system to me.
However, in the Data center Agents I think I am understanding your instructions to be that i should get all three certificates and run These sets of missions in ALL of the solar systems where it is offered? So Unlike the tutorial career agents, it is actually beneficial to run these in all the places they are offered?
Thanks! Oto
For each Faction, there are 5 Career Agents located in each of the 3 different solar systems which makes it a total of 15 Career Agents available. I'm saying go to one of the 3 solar systems, complete all of the missions for all of the Career Agents located in that system, then go to the 2nd system, do the same, then go to the 3rd system and do those. By the time you get done you will have done missions for 15 Career Agents for just that one Faction. They will all give you a 10 part storyline mission (Part 10 is the Faction Standing boost) There is also 15 Tutorial Agents for each Faction (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar).
Each Faction has 3 Data Center's located in 3 different solar systems. There is one Agent at each of those centers that gives you the 'Cert' mission. I suggest doing all 3 'Cert' missions first, then take one of the certificates to the Agent that is listed on the cert. The reason for this is so that you won't forget the other 2 Data Center Agent 'Cert' missions after completing the first one. Only one 'cert' is actually needed but all 3 'cert' missions will give Faction Standing boost.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.03.19 22:08:00 -
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http://www.evegeek.com/mission.php
I added this link to the section 'Stuck' in the 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' since the percentage of mission types offered in the Agent Division looks more accurate than the original one I had posted.
As I said in the 'Introduction', if anyone has more current/up-dated URL's, please post em and I'll edit this 'Plan' asap.
I'm still looking for a walk-thru guide for the following Cosmos missions: Amarr level 4 Cosmos Agent missions Caldari level 1 to level 4 Cosmos Agent missions
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.03.22 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Maluno Is it possible to run the Sisters of Eve arc more than once?
I'm not exactly sure about it but I think the SOE Epic Arc can be redone every 3 months for standing boost. If someone can confirm this and provide documentation / link to URL showing that information please post it and I'll update/edit this thread and include it in the 'Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.03.27 06:41:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 27/03/2010 06:46:20
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson (This won't link correctly but when in Eve-Wiki page, type 'Tutorial Agents' in search box)
After completing all 15 Tutorial Agent missions and all 15 Career Agent missions, now do the Circle Agent missions.
Am I missing something? I did that and got nothing that tells me where these agents missions are.
Clicking on the URL link will take you to Eve-Online warning page which states that you're leaving Eve online, clicking on that URL link will take you to Eve-Wiki page which is blank except for the Eve-Wiki 'search' box on the left side of the page. Type in 'Tutorial Agents', click search and then click on the result - Tutorial Agents - which will be in blue text. That will take you to the page with the list of all 15 Tutorial Agents for each of the 4 main Factions.
I know this seems like a long way to get to the page but for some reason beyond my control, Eve-Online changes the URL address during the transition over to Eve-Wiki.
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I've edit/added this URL link to the 'Faction Standing Repair Plan'.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16401872/Cosmos-Missions-101 (Caldari Cosmos)
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.03.30 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: mangosita11 hi there. i got -10.00 with Caldari state and when i enter it i get that msg that an "enemy of the state" etc and cocord ships spam and start shooting me , will your "plan" help me get rid of this problem and also at what %of standings do concord stop spaming on your face cheers
Well first of all, stop killing Caldari Faction ships and train Diplomacy skill (probably to lv 5). At -4.99 Faction Standing and above it is safe to travel and you won't get attacked by the NPC's.
After training Diplomacy to level 5, check your standings. Since Caldari Faction standing is so bad/low (-10.00), hopefully Amarr Faction standing is higher. Let's say that you have Amarr Faction Standing at -6.00. You'll have to find an Amarr Corporation station with an Agent (lv 1 quality -20 to quality 0) located in Gallente or Minmatar space and grind some regular missions (16 + storylines) until you have Amarr Faction Standing at -4.99. (Decline all encounter missions against any of the main Factions) Once you have achieved Amarr Faction Standing of -4.99 or higher, you can then start working the 'Plan' with the Amarr Tutorial, Career, Circle, Data Center and Cosmos Agents. Eventually the Caldari Faction standing will improve to allow you to enter Caldari space and begin working the 'Plan' with the Caldari Tutorial, Career, Circle, Data Center and Cosmos Agents.
I must say that you have a lot of work ahead of you grinding regular missions just to be able to start the 'Plan'. I wish you lot's of luck and I hope this helps.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.04.19 02:51:00 -
[22]
Wow, I sincerely thank each and every one of you for all the compliments.
If anyone has any related or more current/updated information/URL's for this 'Faction Standing Repair Plan', please feel free to post it and I'll be sure to edit/update the 'Plan' asap.
I'm still looking for a walk-thru guide for Amarr level 4 Cosmos Agents. Also if there is one available, a better guide for Caldari Cosmos Agents as well.
I'll post my statistics soon.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.04.21 04:03:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Syris Anu Great guide and thinking. Could you address the pros/cons, if any, of factional warfare as it releates to the plan? Let's say you flipped sides back and forth every so often - would it be a downward, upward, or neither spiral in terms of overall faction standings?
Also, as a bonus challenge, is there a way this plan could work without grinding? And by that I mean, you would never take the same mission for the same faction or corporation twice?
Thank you. Considering the fact that while in Faction War you're killing ships belonging to another Faction which gives you negative standings hit, I don't think you'll be able to work this 'Plan'. Also you need to be able to 'Bounce' around whenever needed and have access to all factions space. The goal of this 'Plan' is to maximize Faction Standings gain with a minium amount of negative standings hit.
As for not repeating missions, the Cosmos Agent missions can only be completed once. The whole idea of this 'Plan' is to complete all the different Agent missions that give Faction Standing boost. The Tutorial/Career agent missions are the only ones that you'll have to repeat.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.04.30 04:39:00 -
[24]
http://www.hb3.info/cosmos/ (Need Translator to read but still a good guide for the main Factions Cosmos)
I decided to add this to the 'Plan'
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.05.09 06:04:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Dreed Roberts Edited by: Dreed Roberts on 07/05/2010 03:49:17 Nice guide,
(Thank you)
But I fail to see the point. Faction standing really only controls three things, whether you get shot at in their space, whether you can do higher level missions for corps in that faction and whether you can put up a POS in their space. To stay above the shot at level (-5) is a piece of cake really and while this guide will help you back up all you really need to do is no missions against factions and and run storylines for their ally.
(If you try to raise your Faction Standing with just storyline missions from doing regular missions -16- while declining all encounter missions against the main Factions, you'll be doing that for a very very long time before you'll even see a difference in your Faction Standing.)
Firstly you need to have your modified standing above -2.0 so that you can access agents above L1 Q0
(Already stated that is what's needed to start working the 'Plan' which, if followed, will give you access to higher level agents much quicker.)
Secondly there are several other smaller/lesser faction that you can run missions for to boost standings (albeit slower). an example is Sisters of Eve to boost Galente. see this link http://eve-files.com/dl/198396
(As I said before, this 'Plan' is a way to raise negative Faction Standings quickly while also maintaining your positive Faction Standings.)
While faction standing can give you a boost into higher levels of agents in a corp you can get to high corp levels much faster by just missioning for that corp. In addition RnD agents work only on personal/(NPC)corp standing not faction!
(Raising your Faction Standings -as listed in the 'Plan'- will make agents from all the corporations within that Faction available to you which is quicker than just doing regular mission grinding for one corp. It's quicker to raise your Faction Standing and then do a little bit of regular mission grinding for the RnD Corporation to gain access to the higher level Research Agents. Also if you begin research with an agent from one race, e.g. Gallente agent, then run missions for a storyline agent of opposing race, Amarr agent, this may cause your standing with the first agent's faction to fall below the point of being able to interact with the agent in order to buy datacores from that agent. Resolving that issue requires raising your Faction Standings to the point where your R&D agent will again talk to you.)
Finally since you need a natural 5 (unmodified by skills) to errect a POS there is no way in hell you are going to be able to maintain this level for every faction. (at 5 you loose 1.5 times more than you gain)
(Not sure about needing unmodified standing but to place a starbase in a high security system, the Player Owned Corporation will also need faction standing with the faction owning sovereignty of the solar system. The Player Corporation needs to have the following standing to be able to deploy/anchor a POS: 0.4 needs 4.0 faction standing 0.5 needs 5.0 faction standing 0.6 needs 6.0 faction standing 0.7 needs 7.0 faction standing Common methods of quickly raising Faction Standing for this purpose is doing COSMOS missions and turning in tags to Data Center Agents. Just exactly how high of Faction Standings can be gained from doing this 'Plan'? I don't know but I'm sure it'll be way higher than what most players think.)
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.05.09 19:19:00 -
[26]
Thanks.
You're right, it's the corp that needs the Faction Standing to anchor a POS. Corporation standing can be figured using all active member standings. Characters on inactive accounts don't count towards the total. If the corporation was just created, it will take a few days to get correct faction standing for the corporation. Every DT the faction standing raises to the correct standing value.
This 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' will boost or help bring the personal Faction Standings of player characters up to a positive level quickly which will also help the corp standings for anchoring a POS in high security systems.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:28:00 -
[27]
Originally by: 802O8020802O80208020 First off, great info!!
just started grinding missions i 0.0 and my gall and min standings are taking a beating. Is it possible for them both to drop so far down that the repair plan is no longer viable For instance, if you have diplomacy 5 and youre still beneath -5 for both factions.
Cheers
Thank you.
It seems to me that you'll have to find some Level 1 Quality 0 or lower Minmatar or Gallente agents located in one of the regions that you have access to without getting attacked by the NPC Navy. You're going to have to grind out some missions for a while until you get either Minmatar or Gallente Faction standing above -5.00. If you don't have any Minmatar/Gallente agents available you can run missions for a Faction that's friendly to Minmatar and/or Gallente Faction and receive derived standing gains from storyline missions.
The last option open is to purposely fail the storyline missions from your friendly Factions. This will result in a standing loss hit to friendly Corporation and Faction standing but at the same time it will give standing gains to your unfriendly Factions. As soon as you get one of the 2 unfriendly Factions above -5.00, start working the 'Plan'. Of course this is a last resort.
First things first, try to find another Faction to work for so you'll get derived standing gains, like Sisters of Eve.
http://www.newedenlibrary.net/eon/faction_standings.shtml
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.06.30 07:26:00 -
[28]
Well, I've edited some of the links in the 'Plan' since Evelopedia has been updated. That should make it easier to get information for most of the specific agent types.
I had to do a lot of regular mission grinding for Gallente. Ever since CCP added that new Storyline mission that takes you into low sec systems against overpowered NPCs, I've had to decline 4 storyline missions along with about a dozen regular missions.
While messing around with some Destroyer fit ups doing Level 1 and Level 2 Agent missions for Brutor Tribe in Rens System, I unexpectedly received 2 storyline missions for Minmatar which kinda put a hurt on Amarr and Ammatar.
However, eventually I did manage to get back to working the 'Plan'. My Standings have now done another 'Sea-Saw' and I'm currently 'Bouncing' back and forth between Gallente and Caldari Cosmos Agents. I have 7 Level 3 Cosmos Agents left to complete.
Just wanted to mention that at last count I have collected 120 Storyline BPC's and have received 9 different Storyline Modules as well as a ton of Faction Munitions along with different types of Implants.
Current Statistics:
Faction Standings +5.86 Minmatar Republic +4.67 Gallente Federation +4.59 Caldari State +3.18 Amarr Empire +2.75 Ammatar Mandate
Social Skills Level 5 Social Level 5 Connections Level 4 Diplomacy Level 4 Negotiation Level 4 Fast Talk
Data Centers (Tags completed) Minmatar = Angel Crystal and lower - still need Gold Gallente = Serpentis Diamond and lower - still need Brass and Gold Caldari = Guristas Crystal and lower - still need Brass Amarr = Blood Crystal and lower - still need Gold Ammatar = Sansha Crystal and lower - still need Gold
Event Agents completed All Tutorial, Career and Circle Agents for all 4 major Factions. Minmatar = All Cosmos Level 3 and lower Gallente = Most of Cosmos Level 3 and all lower (Level 3 agents left = 3) Caldari = Most of Cosmos Level 3 and all lower (Level 3 agents left = 4) Amarr = All Cosmos Level 3 and lower
I still have a lot of Cosmos Agent missions left to complete (Level 4) as well as the rest of the Data Centers Tag missions. Also the Level 4 Epic Arc Agent missions. I'll do another update on my statistics as soon as I complete the Level 3 Cosmos Agents.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.07.12 04:24:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Khazryn DMC,
Complements, Questions and Plans.
Thanks, I hope I can make the 'Bounce' action a little more easier to understand.
When first working the 'Plan', completing all the Tutorial, Career, Circle, level 1 Data Center and level 1 COSMOS Agents for the highest 'Unfriendly' Faction will hopefully unlock or make the lowest 'Unfriendly' Faction open to work the same type of Agents. They can be done in order without the 'Bounce' action.
As soon as both 'Unfriendly' Factions have positive Standing, it's best to keep watch on the standings and when one of the main Factions standing gets low, 'Bounce' to it and work the agents. The 'Bounce' action usually won't have to be done with the lower level agents. With the higher level agents, I try to work (Bounce) the opposite Factions at the same time so that the standings don't get too lop-sided.
For example, I'm working the level 3 Caldari and Gallente Cosmos agents now. They need a Faction Standing of +4.00 or higher for access. To make sure I have access to both Factions, I'll complete missions for one or more agents of one Faction and then 'Bounce' over to the other Faction. After completing missions for one of the higher level agents, I'll check my standings to see if I should 'Bounce'.
As for new characters working the 'Plan', doing the 'Bounce' action (When needed) should help keep all the main Factions standings close to equal.
I hope this explains the 'Bounce' action.
Answers to your questions:
1 - At first, No. After a while, Yes, because you'll have to 'Bounce' back and forth just to keep the 'Sea-Saw' going.
2 - Yes. That's a good way to help keep the standings close to equal and not allow one Faction standing to get too low.
3 - Well, the main idea is to be able to have access to all agents. If 1/2 way through working one Factions agents (level 3) and it's standings go up to +6.35 and you only need +4.00 while at the same time the opposite Faction goes down to +4.02 and you still have a lot of level 3 agents to complete for them, then you should 'Bounce' to them. If not, you could get locked out or 'stuck' and might end up having to do a lot of regular mission grinding just to get back to working the 'Plan'.
I hope this was helpful.
On a side note: I'll be adding another section to the 'Plan' about the Epic Arc's, Mainly the level 1 SoE Arc which can be used every 3 months to help even up lop-sided Faction Standings. Also when each Factions standing get's up high enough to access the first agent in the level 4 Epic Arc's, it's a good idea to complete that first mission of the arc and then let the Arc sit in the journal. That way after you've completed all the Cosmos agents, you'll still have access to the level 4 Epic Arcs which also can be completed every 3 months for Faction Standing gain.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.07.12 04:35:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Alatari
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson While doing this 'Plan', you might get stuck and won't be able to access or continue to the next level of Data Center Agents or Cosmos Agents. If this happens you will have to do some regular NPC Corporation missions (16 + storyline) until you have gained the required Faction or Corporation standing to continue with this 'Plan'.
My advice is to do missions for the highest level/quality agent available to you in the Divisions that give a lot of Courier missions because these can be done very quickly. The goal here is to get back to working the 'Plan' asap.
At this point you're only interested in completing 16 missions as quickly as possible to obtain the next storyline mission. Its better to find the highest level / lowest quality agent, they give out the easier missions which can be completed more quickly.
The reason I suggested the highest level and highest quality agent for doing courier missions is because there's no reason to cut yourself out of getting the max rewards available from doing those missions, also they can all be completed rather quickly so time shouldn't be a factor.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.07.17 12:07:00 -
[31]
Well, I would like to thank everyone who has added links or advised me to add more information pertaining to Faction Standing increase. Due to a series of events and other players advice posted in this thread is the reason for the updated information and URL links that are now added to the 'Plan'. I think I've got everything covered now, at least until CCP decides to add or change something again.
While I was working the last few level 3 Caldari and Gallente COSMOS Agents left to complete, I started doing R&D missions for my lv 4 Research Agents (4 total) with Core Complexion (Minmatar R&D Corp) to get the double research points. Without realizing it, I was getting corp standing increase with each mission completed and then unexpectedly received a lv 4 Storyline Mission offer which I accepted and completed. Needless to say, it placed another heavy hit to my Amarr and Ammatar Faction Standings lowering them even more.
After completing all the lv 3 COSMOS Agents, I then decided to run the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc which I completed within a few days. I picked Amarr Faction at the end to help raise the Amarr standings. I recieved 8.75% Faction Standing increase which helped it a bit.
I have already accessed and completed the Minmatar Epic Arc starting Agent mission (First one of the Arc) and am leaving that arc in my journal which I can continue later after completing all the lv 4 COSMOS Agent missions.
I am currently doing some regular mission grinding for the highest agent I can access right now that offers a lot of Courier missions, Level 3 Quality +3 Agent - Storage Division - Expert Distribution Corporation - Caldari Faction, to raise Corp or Faction Standing (Whichever comes first) to access and complete the Caldari Epic Arc starting Agent mission.
I plan on doing this with all the Level 4 Epic Arc starting agents which I'm sure will 'Sea-Saw' my standings some more. After I gain access to all the Epic Arcs, I'll go back to working the level 4 COSMOS Agents.
I've collected 132 Storyline BPC's and 12 Storyline modules so far from doing COSMOS missions. Not to mention a ton of Faction munitions and various Implants.
My current statistics:
Security Status: +4.82
Faction Standings: Minmatar +6.42 Gallente +5.25 Caldari +4.19 Amarr +3.46 Ammatar +2.24
Social Skills: Social = Level 5 Connections = Level 5 Diplomacy = Level 4 Negotiation = Level 4 Fast Talk = Level 4
Data Center Tags completed: Minmatar = Angel Crystal and lower - need Gold Gallente = Serpentis Diamond and lower - need Brass and Gold Caldari = Guristas Crystal and lower - need Brass Amarr = Blood Crystal and lower - need Gold Ammatar = Sansha Crystal and lower - need Gold
Event Agents completed: All Factions = Tutorial, Career, Circle Agents
COSMOS completed: Minmatar = All Level 3 and lower Agents Gallente = All Level 3 and lower Agents Caldari = All Level 3 and lower Agents Amarr = All Level 3 and lower Agents
Epic Arcs completed: Sisters of Eve (Lv 1) = Completed 2 (1 Minmatar, 1 Amarr) Minmatar (Lv 4) = Started
I'll update my statistics each time I access an Epic Arc starting Agent. I hope this updated 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' helps everyone and if I happen to miss anything or if you find a more current URL link, please post it and I'll make sure to edit this 'Plan'.
On a side note, as soon as my Security Status hits +5.00 and - Fast Talk - is trained to Lv 5, I'll access the 'Special' Concord Agents and complete their missions.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.08.06 20:38:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Manipulator General
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson On a side note, as soon as my Security Status hits +5.00 and - Fast Talk - is trained to Lv 5, I'll access the 'Special' Concord Agents and complete their missions.
wha...I must investigate this further. I never knew such a thing existed.
Yeah, this is the link about it.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Security_status#How_to_get_above_5.0_Security_Status
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.08.07 17:22:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Jessica Cirio Edited by: Jessica Cirio on 07/08/2010 15:01:42 Edited by: Jessica Cirio on 07/08/2010 15:00:55 Hi there , how do i rise my standings with caldari ( -5,95 ) and amarr (-5,75) i hate being shoot in empire lol , any advice ? ty
jess.
Social Skills Level 5 Social Level 5 Connections Level 5 Diplomacy Level 5 Negotiation
Well, the Eve 'Censored' is working overtime again. I can't link these so you'll have to copy and paste these into your out of game Internet browser.
http://agents.eve-commander.com/
http://eve-online.itemdrop.net/eve_db/agents/
Look for Amarr, Ammatar or Caldari Faction agents, level 1 quality 0 or lower, located in your friendly factions controlled space. You'll have to do some regular mission grinding and get storyline mission offers until you get one of the unfriendly faction standings above -5.00. Then after completing that, you should be able to enter the unfriendly factions space and start working the plan. Just remember to decline all anti-faction encounter missions.
Good luck.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.08.10 17:43:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Ysolde Xen
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
http://www.newedenlibrary.net/eon/faction_standings.shtml
Do you happen to know up to date those standings are? I ask because it shows Thukker Tribe - Minmatar Republic standing as being -2.00 whereas I'm pretty sure it's changed. I'm at work and cannot log in to check.
Yeah, that link has incorrect statistics listed. On page 1, post #4 of this thread I added a link with updated current statistics regarding Inter-Faction Standings.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standings#Standing_Relationships
As I've said from the very beginning, if anyone knows or has any current up to date URL's for any of the information links in this 'Plan', please post them and I'll update/edit the 'Plan' asap.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.08.12 11:39:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Goremageddon Box pimp **** guide
???
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.08.12 11:51:00 -
[36]
Ahhh, ok, thanks a lot, hope it helps.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.08.17 18:53:00 -
[37]
Thank you, it's always good to hear that.
If anyone has any related information or more current up to date URL's, please post it and I'll update/edit the 'Plan'.
Good luck to everyone.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.08.24 21:42:00 -
[38]
Originally by: ULSTER MAN Edited by: ULSTER MAN on 24/08/2010 13:09:18 I run level 5's in amarr space and am making a killing on the isk side of things. my minnie and gallente are -6.4 and -5.1.
I want to fix this but i want to be able to keep running level's 5 for the isk (and against those factions)
anyone got an idea how to do this and still run all the missions that amarr give me? OR is this not possible?
This 'Plan' will fix or repair bad standings but if you insist on running encounter missions against those Factions, then you might as well just forget about fixing those 'Unfriendly' Faction Standings.
As long as you maintain a Faction Standing above -2.00, you'll always have access to your level 5 Amarr Agent provided you have enough corporation or personal standing.
Bottom line: you have to decide if you want to continue doing Anti Faction encounter missions or start being a Diplomat, the choice is yours.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.08.24 22:09:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Lagruna Zegata Great guide, DeMichael. Once you feel like everything is finished and polished it could make a good addition to the EVElopedia.
The guide is very comprehensive for Empire, and the only exotic thing that might be added is more info on working for the different pirate factions (both regular missions & storylines...and noting how killing belt rats only lowers standings with individual NPC pirate corps, not factions.) It would also be interesting to see what happens there with CONCORD Assembly faction, etc.
Thanks for taking my in-game questions.
~LZ
LZ, thank you very much
I hope you got the answers you were looking for.
Looks like I'll have to do a bit of research and add a section about the Pirate NPC Factions. I do know that CCP has made it easy for players to improve Pirate Faction Standings with the Pirate Faction Epic Arcs. Only need +4.80 Corporation or Faction Standing with one of the 3 starting agents (1 Pirate, 2 Empire). Then there's also COSMOS Pirate Agents, the skill 'Criminal Connections' and of course all the regular Agents. Since all Agents level 1 quality 0 and lower are available to everyone, I'm sure it shouldn't be too hard to build up positive standings with the NPC Pirate Factions.
Now the major question I have:
Does anyone have personal security status above -2.00, Faction Standings above -5.00 with all Empire Factions and has very high positive Pirate Faction Standings?
I would very much like to talk with them and find out how they accomplished it and more on how they maintain those standings.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.08.29 22:39:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Sagesse Edited by: Sagesse on 29/08/2010 13:31:25 Tutorial Agents
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Tutorial_Agents
I think the link to tutorial agents is broken, this is the link, seriously great post, thanks!
Thanks, I just checked and the link I have listed for the Tutorial Agents is good. It should take you to Evelopedia which has the exact same information as the link you listed.
I had originally used the Eve-Wiki link but when trying to set up a quick link to it, the Eve Online censor does something which makes the link broken.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.01 01:32:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Bear Templar At what stage would you advise starting say if your standings were 1.55 (raised from -0.06 due to Diplomacy)?
After seeing your response to my thread, i read your plan (which is very handy btw) and with my character already at 1.55 i was going to skip the tutorial and career agents and go from the "circle" agents. Your thoughts?
I'm a firm believer in the old saying 'Every little bit helps'.
The Tutorial, Career, Circle and a few of the Data Center Agents are available to everyone as long as you can enter those high security systems. They are the 1st part of the 'Plan' for repairing bad Faction standings. I guess you could always complete those agent missions later.
Myself, I think they are super easy to gain Faction standing boost with and you might as well complete them since 'Every little bit helps'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.01 01:49:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Takseen Just confirming I finished the Gallente epic arc today and got +12.5% faction standings(with Social V) with no associated penalty to any other empire factions.
Takseen,
Congratulations. I hope this 'Plan' has been helpful to you.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.04 00:31:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Takseen Edited by: Takseen on 03/09/2010 16:53:55 Just repeated the Sisters of Eve epic arc. After choosing the Amarr commander in one of the final missions, I got a +8.75% standings boost(with Social V) with the Amarr and no penalties to the other empires once the arc was complete. I also got a few level 1 storyline missions, though none were for factions I wanted to increase at the time.
Edit : Oh, quick question. I'm on -0.45 with the Amarr(-3.06 before Diplomacy V). When does it switch over to being affected by Connections skill, when I hit 0.00 basic or adjusted standing?
When Faction standing reaches 0.00 from being modified by Diplomacy skill, that Faction will not show up in the standings list of the character sheet until enough standing is gained for the Connections skill to modify. Neutral standings with Corporations and Factions are not listed so don't be worried if it doesn't show up for a while.
Gratz to you on the standings gain.
I was just wondering, have you been following or working the majority of this 'Plan'? If so, how much of the 'Plan' have you completed?
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.04 11:24:00 -
[44]
Cool, I'm glad the 'Plan' has helped you.
Just remember that completing missions for the allied Faction agents will also help raise the initial Faction standings as well.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:50:00 -
[45]
Sisters Of Eve Level 1 Epic Arc:
Need to be able to enter all Factions high security systems (Amarr, Ammatar, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar). No other standings are required. Can pick one Faction (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar) and receive +8.75% Faction standing increase at the end of the SoE arc.
Level 4 Epic Arc:
Need +6.80 Corporation or Faction standing only with the starting Agent (1st one) in the arc. Will receive +12.75% Faction standing increase at the end of the arc.
All Epic Arcs can be completed every 3 months for Faction Standing increase. Each mission in the arcs will give standings with the Agents Corporation. No derived standings, positive or negative, are received from the Epic Arcs.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.05 22:39:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Ortolano Gonfio sorry to bother, i've got -5.50 and -5.66 respectively with caldari state and amarr empire. how i can increase the standing with caldari and amarr below the -5.0, so i can pass/pve without getting annoied by the local police? actualy im skilling diplomacy to 5, but still 6 days on the clock and i dont think it will clear for good the problem...
i looked at the guide, but how i can even try to run a level 1 mission for them, if the police scram to ass **** me? :D thanks in advice!
Look for Amarr or Caldari corporations that have stations and Agents located in Gallente or Minmatar space. You'll have to do some regular mission grinding (16 + storyline) for Level 1 Quality 0 and lower Agents until you raise Amarr or Caldari Faction Standing above -5.00. Then you can freely enter that 'Unfriendly' Faction's space and start working the 'Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.05 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 05/09/2010 23:41:02
Originally by: Urgg Boolean Cosmos Missions :: these missions seem to give a lot more standing than normal mission, yes? I see clearly that doing these improves standing rapidly, but won't they also seriously degrade your standing with opposing factions?
So I guess what I'm asking, should we have adequate standing to run these for all factions, else we will not be able to bounce between factions to keep standings balanced, which is the whole point of this plan ?!?!
I'm just having trouble seeing how the Cosmos missions fit into the plan witout causing more problems than they fix...
The positive standing gain received is always more than the negative standing hit. You just have to watch your standings.
Example: You have +6.50 Minmatar Faction standing from working most of the Minmatar level 3 Cosmos Agents and you see Amarr Faction standing has dropped to +4.10 and you haven't worked any Amarr Cosmos. That's when you 'Bounce' over and work the Amarr Cosmos Agents. When Minmatar Faction standing drops to just above +4.00, you then 'Bounce' back to Minmatar.
Also the Data Center tag missions can help. While working the Amarr Cosmos, you turn in Tags for Minmatar, etc. The main thing is to always check your standings after you have completed an agent mission which will let you know what steps need to done next. Unfortunately, every once in a while you might have to do some regular mission grinding to get back to working the 'Plan'.
I hope this explains things for you. If you read all the entries in this post, you'll see that I've listed all the steps I've taken while working this 'Plan'. I will be posting another update of my statistics very soon.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.06 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: L0nz0p Edited by: L0nz0p on 05/09/2010 23:42:06 thanks for the guide!
Your welcome, it's good to know this 'Plan' is helping players.
Feel free to inform others in-game about this 'Plan' to fix bad standings.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.08 09:50:00 -
[49]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 08/09/2010 09:55:11
Well, that's a very good question and thanks for bringing that to my attention.
I spent a lot of time reading all the past Patch Notes and I didn't see anything about that. I might have missed it so if anyone else knows that to be fact, please link it and I'll be sure to remove the 'Last Resort' option from the 'Plan'.
EDIT: I guess what I'll do is complete 16 level 1 agent missions with a Corporation of my highest Faction standing and then purposely fail the storyline mission offered and see what happens. I really don't want to do that but if I'm gonna have the 'Last Resort' option listed in the 'Plan', then I need to be sure that it still works.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.09 14:57:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Hagen Guralman Timing could not have been better. I came to this forum to search for tips on fixing faction standings without destroying the other ones I've built up, and landed on this thread. Perfect!
Thanks for your hard work.
You're welcome.
I hope you have good luck working the 'Plan'
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.10 02:04:00 -
[51]
Congratulations, always good to hear that the 'Plan' is helping players.
The Pirate Epic Arcs are a bit different now from what was presented in that DEV BLOG. I believe there's only 3 starting agents instead of 4. Now about the amount of Faction standing received as well as any derived standings, I'll have to check on that. Maybe someone who has completed the lv 3 Pirate Arcs can verify?
Anyway, thanks for posting and I hope you have continued good luck.
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On a side note I'm currently doing a round of missions (16) for a lv 1 Agent in a corp for my highest Faction standing. I plan on testing the 'Last Resort' option listed in the 'Plan' just to be sure that it is still good. I'll be sure to let everyone know about the results.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.10 10:55:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Kary Tamona Edited by: Kary Tamona on 06/09/2010 13:23:14 Edited by: Kary Tamona on 06/09/2010 11:03:44 Edited by: Kary Tamona on 06/09/2010 10:00:14
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
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The 'Last Resort' option is to purposely fail storyline missions for your friendly Factions. This results in a negative hit to friendly Corp/Faction standing while giving positive standing to unfriendly Factions.
Hi Crimson, thanks for the guide, really helpful stuff.
I have a question though. I recall that some time ago the failing of missions to gain standings with an "enemy" faction was corrected and that nowadays failing a mission will NOT give you any derived standing increase. I got no link to this one, and I could be mistaken. Am I?
It would be great if you or someone else could clarify this point. Thanks in advance.
Well, sad to say this but I think you're right.
I tested it and it seems that only the allied (friendly) Factions are affected by the failure of a storyline mission. I did level 1 missions for Brutor tribe corp and received a storyline offer which I accepted and then quit the mission. I incurred negative standings hit, twice, with each of the allied (friendly) Factions and had no derived standings with any of the enemy Factions.
Now maybe the reason it didn't work is because I have high positive standings with all of the Empire Factions? The only negative Faction standings I have are with the Pirate Factions.
I'm still not sure but I'll remove the 'Last Resort' option from the 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' just to be safe. I don't want any players to end up having worse standings than when they started working the 'Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.12 02:16:00 -
[53]
UPDATE: I've done a lot of mission grinding for various Corporations and now have access to all Empire Factions Level 4 Epic Arcs. I've also completed the 2 'special' Concord Agent missions for Security Status increase. Not to mention I also checked the 'Last Resort' option and found that it is no longer viable and have deleted it from the 'Plan'. While doing that my standings have done a lot of 'See-saw' action which was expected.
Current Statistics:
Empire Faction Standings: Minmatar Republic +5.52 Caldari State +5.37 The Interbus +4.98 Amarr Empire +4.41 Khanid Kingdom +4.37 Gallente Federation +4.28 Ammatar Mandate +3.94 Concord Assembly +2.56
Social Skills: Social lv 5 Connections lv 5 Fast Talk lv 5 Diplomacy lv 4 Negotiation lv 4
Security Status: +5.85
Data Center Tags completed: Minmatar = Angel Crystal and lower - need Gold Gallente = Serpentis Diamond and lower - need Brass and Gold Caldari = Guristas Crystal and lower - need Brass Amarr = Blood Crystal and lower - need Gold Ammatar = Sansha Crystal and lower - need Gold
Epic Arcs Completed: Level 1 Sisters Of Eve = 2x (1x Minmatar, 1x Amarr) Level 4 Amarr = Started Level 4 Caldari = Started Level 4 Gallente = Started Level 4 Minmatar = Started
Tutorial, Career, Circle Agents Completed: All Empire Factions
Cosmos Agents Completed: All Empire Factions = level 3 and lower
Special Agents Completed (Security Status): Christer Fuglesang = Concord Jeremy Tacs = Concord
How_to_get_above_5.0_Security_Status
All that's left now is to complete the level 4 COSMOS Agent missions and the level 4 Epic Arcs as well as a few more Data Center Tag missions. Right now I plan on grinding missions for some R&D Corporations to gain access to the highest level R&D Agent for each Faction. I'll use those to help balance lop sided Faction Standings. The Epic Arcs will be used to continue gaining large Faction Standing increase after I've completed the level 4 COSMOS Agent missions.
I'll continue posting the results incurred from working this 'Plan'.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.12 11:08:00 -
[54]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 12/09/2010 11:10:01
You're welcome, I'm glad to hear that it's helping players.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.13 03:46:00 -
[55]
Well, sorry to hear that you experienced some standing loss. The level 4 epic arcs are documented by DEV Blogs to not incur any derived standings, either positive or negative. Since you've already completed the other level 4 Epic Arcs and didn't incur any derived standings except on the Minmatar Epic Arc, that sounds like a bug and should be reported and the petition should be honored.
I think you should search through all the DEV Blogs and Patch Notes as well as the Forums for proof. I started to search for proof but I'm missing out on valuable time to play the game.
As for the GM response to your petition, I've found that most of them use that excuse just to quickly close out the petition. I had a regular GM try that with me so I searched and found the proof proving that my petition was valid. I politely insisted that a Senior GM take over and look into the situation. Guess what? After a few days the petition was answered by a Senior GM who honored my request in the petition with an apology for any inconvenience as well as an offer to look into any other issues that I might have.
Thanks for the link to Jowen Datloran's Lorebook but I already have that listed in the 'Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.13 14:43:00 -
[56]
Ahh, maybe the name of that Dev says it all,
Anyway, I see that was Posted - 2009.08.12 18:39:00
I found this one Posted - 2010.07.13 13:12:00 http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1352802#3
Maybe Ceti Lomax knows which patch has that info?
Bottom line: If the Minmatar Level 4 Epic Arc is now the only one that incurs derived Faction standings compared to the other Epic Arcs, then that's a clear case of being unbalanced. It could even be viewed as an exploit, even though I'm sure nobody would want to exploit that.
Thanks for the information.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.14 05:09:00 -
[57]
I've edited the 'Plan' now to include this information:
Epic Arcs can be completed every 3 months for a large Faction Standing boost with very little to no derived standings towards other Factions.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.15 10:03:00 -
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If you can safely travel in all Empire Factions space, then the SoE Arc would probably be better since it doesn't incur any derived standings for completing it and it gives +8.75% increase to the Faction you choose at the end.
As for the other Agent types listed in the 'Plan', (Tutorial, Career, Data Center, etc), it's the usual 'Tug of War' standings action (1 step forward, 1/2 step back) that you get from completing regular storyline missions. What makes the 'Plan' work is that every Agent in the 'Plan' gives an important storyline mission for Faction Standing increase which is the reason for the 'Bounce' action.
Maybe complete the SoE Epic Arc and the level 4 Epic Arc for your Faction and just use the low level 'Plan' Agents (Tutorial, Circle, etc) to keep the unfriendly Factions from going bad. The Tutorial and other low level Agent missions can be completed quickly.
I hope this helps.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.16 01:49:00 -
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Would be nice if that happened.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.19 02:01:00 -
[60]
Thanks, I hope everything works out good for you.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.24 23:47:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Apotamkin The Pirate Epic Arcs
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=713
Is is possible to have good standings with all 4 empire factions AND all the pirate factions as well?
I'd like to keep my standings positive but I don't know that's a lot of mind numbing boring sitting in a chair for weeks/months mission grinding. Obviously yeah it's just be easier to pick a side and forget standings with everyone else but not being able to enter somewhere like Jita would be a pain. Can that happen?
Well, I don't think you can have positive standings with everybody. This 'Plan' will enable all Empire Factions to be positive, however the Pirate Factions will be negative.
The Pirate Epic Arcs can be accessed via an Empire Faction Agent. After a while it might be possible to get those to a positive level. Maybe if you declined all encounter missions and only did courier missions you might be able to have most of them at a positive level.
As for you referring to this 'Plan' as "a lot of mind numbing boring sitting in a chair for weeks/months mission grinding", well that's your opinion.
This 'Plan' is the fastest way to gain standing since all of the agents listed in it give Faction Standing increase. Feel free to find another way to increase Faction Standings faster. If you do, I'd love to hear it.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.27 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: DeMichael Crimson Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 24/08/2010 22:18:47
Originally by: Lagruna Zegata Great guide, DeMichael. Once you feel like everything is finished and polished it could make a good addition to the EVElopedia.
The guide is very comprehensive for Empire, and the only exotic thing that might be added is more info on working for the different pirate factions (both regular missions & storylines...and noting how killing belt rats only lowers standings with individual NPC pirate corps, not factions.) It would also be interesting to see what happens there with CONCORD Assembly faction, etc.
Thanks for taking my in-game questions.
~LZ
LZ, thank you very much
I hope you got the answers you were looking for.
Looks like I'll have to do a bit of research and add a section about the Pirate NPC Factions. I do know that CCP has made it easy for players to improve Pirate Faction Standings with the Pirate Faction Epic Arcs. Only need +4.80 Corporation or Faction Standing with one of the 3 starting agents (1 Pirate, 2 Empire). Then there's also COSMOS Pirate Agents, the skill 'Criminal Connections' and of course all the regular Agents. Since all Agents level 1 quality 0 and lower are available to everyone, I'm sure it shouldn't be too hard to build up positive standings with the NPC Pirate Factions.
Now the major question I have:
Does anyone have Personal Security Status above -2.00 (Travel), Faction Standings above -5.00 (Travel) or -2.00 (Access) with all or most of the Empire Factions and has very high positive Pirate Faction Standings?
I would very much like to talk with them and find out how they accomplished it and more on how they maintain those standings.
Yeah, this was posted a while back and the question still remains unanswered.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.29 11:07:00 -
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Nice Info, thanks.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.30 11:58:00 -
[64]
Ahh, that standing link from New-Eden is incorrect. This Link has been updated with the most current info with the standing changes recently made in Eve which is listed in the 'Plan'.
As for the amount received, my Empire Faction standings are currently well over +4.00 and I still get large standing boost from storyline missions with Social, Connections and Negotiation skills at lv 5. Probably will continue to do so until all Empire Factions are around +6.00.
I still have all Empire Factions level 4 Cosmos Agent missions left to complete along with all of the lv 4 Epic Arcs. Not to mention I also have a few Data Center Tag missions left to complete. I'll probably complete the Epic Arcs first to gain standing for access to the level 4 Cosmos Agent missions. Hopefully by the time I complete all those cosmos missions, I'll be able to do the Epic Arcs again.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.30 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jho Ran Edited by: Jho Ran on 30/09/2010 20:08:29 But that link says the same thing with regards to Amarr and Minmatar modifiers (-5.000) and I am still confused about the whole "+2.0% gain for minmatar gives -1.2% loss with amarr" thing.
Could the diplomacy skill affect this somehow? I only have that to lvl 2.
Edit: I guess I'll raise diplomacy to 4 and see if the numbers change. I'll hold off on the storyline missions until then.
Diplomacy skill only affects negative standings towards Factions and Corps listed in - standings section - 'Disliked by' tab - of the character sheet. Connections affects positive standings listed in the 'Liked by' tab.
When you gain positive standing for a Faction, Corp and Agent, Social and Negotiation skills modify and increase the amount received which is then added to the correct standings section of the character sheet. At the same time, the Factions enemy receives 1/2 the amount in negative standings. Can't get around that. CCP likes to round up the negative standings amount and round down the positive standings amount incurred from derived standings.
Consider it as a Dance. 1 step forward with positive standing and 1/2 step back with negative standing. Move or 'Bounce' over to that Factions enemy and do the same, you'll then have moved up 1/2 a step positive with both Factions. The Epic Arcs allow a large positive jump with little to no negative steps back.
I hope this helps. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Standings_mechanics
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.09.30 23:38:00 -
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CCP likes to round up the negative standings amount and round down the positive standings amount incurred from derived standings.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.10.01 00:09:00 -
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Yeah, I agree.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.10.03 00:59:00 -
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Great, it's good to hear that.
Yeah, it takes a bit of time to work this 'Plan'. The main thing to remember is that every Event Agent listed gives Faction Standings while the 'Bounce' option helps to make them equal. Just have to keep an eye on the standings and switch Factions every once in a while.
Unfortunately it's sorta like 'Square Dancing'.
*DeMichael Crimson starts playing a Fiddle and sings out cadence:
"Take a partner and doce c dac, 1 step forward 1/2 step back. Get new partner and doce c doe, repeat the steps it may seem slow. Parmalade with everyone, after while the dance is done."
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.10.08 04:04:00 -
[69]
Train Diplomacy at least to lv 4. That should help a lot.
Helping a friend on his Storyline mission will NOT give you Faction Standing increase.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.10.11 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 11/10/2010 16:03:49
Originally by: Jho Ran Well, rounding penalties or not, I was simply unable to get past an avg. of 2.33 unmodified standing when switching between lvl 2 Amarr and Minmatar storyline missions. I must have done 5 for each or so, with social 5 and negotiation 4, but the faction standings just ping-ponged back and forth.
However, when I did a couple of lvl 3 missions the numbers (avg.) started going up again.
I'm a bit confused. Are you doing 16 regular missions to get 1 storyline or are you following this 'Plan' and working the Event Agents? Also do you have Connections skill trained?
If it's just the regular 16 missions, what type of missions? One of the main points with this 'Plan' is to NOT accept any Faction encounter missions. Structures and ship kills will incur derived negative Faction Standings. Also if the Storyline mission offer is Anti Faction, should decline that as well. Don't want to include structure and ship kills along with the derived negative Faction Standings.
If following the 'Plan', you should see the standing for the Allied Factions you're currently working go up quickly while the enemy Allied Factions standings go down. Depending on which Faction and level of Agents completed, you can take one Faction up quite high while keeping an eye on the enemy Allied Factions and switch or 'Bounce' to one of those just before it's standing goes below the amount needed for access.
I've posted all of my statistics and Faction Standings incurred as well as the steps I've done with each completed section of the 'Plan'. When I list the Faction Standings, it's the modified amount/number. As you can see, all of my Empire Faction Standings have raised up quite a bit from when I first started working this 'Plan'.
I hope this has helped.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.10.12 01:42:00 -
[71]
Ahhhh, my mistake.
I apologize for misinterpreting what you both had posted. Thank you for replying and clarifying the meaning or context of the statements posted. I sincerely hope everything works out OK for you both in regards to working this 'Plan'.
Good luck and much success to you all.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.10.18 00:34:00 -
[72]
, thanks for the information.
I'm not sure but with all of the patches, expansions and changes CCP has done, anything is possible.
Maybe the numbers listed in the Evelopedia are based with Social and Negotiation skills trained to lv 5.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.10.21 02:50:00 -
[73]
Great, please inform us of the results.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.10.28 03:33:00 -
[74]
Excellent, I hope this 'Plan' helps everyone as much as it's helped me.
I'm currently grinding missions for R&D Corporations to access one high level Research Agent from each Empire Faction. So far I have accessed Minmatar, Ammatar and Amarr. Next will be Gallente and then Caldari. Because of this my standings are doing a major Sea-Saw action. I'll then jump on completing all the level 4 Epic Arcs and then the level 4 Cosmos Agents.
I'll be sure to keep everyone updated.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.10.29 09:10:00 -
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Well, thanks for posting. I'm sorry to say this but your logic is flawed with misinformation and some of your statements are incorrect.
Originally by: Patrice Macmahon Edited by: Patrice Macmahon on 29/10/2010 01:54:31 However, on a practical maner, this is completely insane.
Not sure how this 'Plan' is insane since being able to go anywhere in Eve seems very 'practical' to me.
Originally by: Patrice Macmahon Balanced Faction standings prevent you from having easily accessable agents within that faction, so you wont be able to hop from doing level IV's for the Navy and then Level IV's with whatever research agent you want out of that faction on a whim.
Having high Faction standings allows access to all regular Agents of all Corporations within the Faction. The exception is that Research Agents require a set amount of Corporation standing and Cosmos Agents require a set amount of Faction standing. Epic Arc Agents and Data Center Agents require either Corporation or Faction standing.
Originally by: Patrice Macmahon With the way your doing it, then for EVERY corporation you want standings with your going to need to start just about at the bottom of the totem pole for every corporation.
As I said before, high Faction standings allows access to high level Agents. I just checked available Agents in two different Corporations I haven't worked for yet. One from my highest Faction standing and one from my lowest Faction standing. Seems I already have access to level 4 Agents in my highest Faction and access to level 3 Agents in my lowest Faction. Since I haven't done any missions for either of those Corporations yet, I'd hardly call that starting from the bottom of the Totem Pole.
Originally by: Patrice Macmahon A bit of advice to anyone wanting to play the "Super" standings game: Just concentrate on the corporations you want, and don't let your effective (modified) standings drop below -1.99 (about -5.0 with diplomacy). You can do storyline for other factions, just don't blow up other faction ships and your standings with negative factions will ride on the "floor".
When you want to go grind another set, just blitz the toem pole and pick your corp. With solid social skills it takes 1-2 days utilizing the agent locator to unlock level IV's.
The only Corporation grind I've actually done has been for either Data Center, Epic Arc or Research Agents. Once the Corporation standing required has been gained, I'll always have access to the high level Agents as long as I stay above -2.00 Faction standing. Not sure where you figure the -5.00 with Diplomacy since that only allows you to travel in Empire Faction space without getting attacked by Faction Navy NPC's. It won't allow access to high level Agents.
Originally by: Patrice Macmahon But heh, if you want to run around and do all this, have at bro. =)
Heh, that was my 'Plan' from the start. Considering the fact that I already have access to 3/4 or more of all Empire Agents available in this game, I still have the level 4 Epic Arcs, all level 4 Cosmos Agents and a few more Data Center Tag missions to complete. When those are completed I'll have access to each and every Empire Agent available in this game and able to go anywhere I please.
Originally by: Patrice Macmahon Good advice and cconsolodation of material on how to bring those major negative up from the brink BTW. I just disagree with leveling out ALL your standings. Its a waste of effort mechanically.
Thanks, I think. Really doesn't matter if you agree or disagree, I play this game for my own enjoyment and set out to accomplish some goals which very few players have done. In the process I found a way to accomplish it and decided to share it with everyone. This 'Plan' may not be for you and that's ok. Bottom line, if you feel the need to 'Rain on my Parade', please get the facts straight.
Goals: 1, Access to all Research Agents 2, Complete all Event Agent missions 3, Acquire high positive Empire standings
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.10.29 20:42:00 -
[76]
Thank you, I'm glad to hear it has helped.
This 'Plan' is indeed the fastest way to repair negative Faction standings as well as boost positive Faction standings.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.11.06 08:27:00 -
[77]
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standings#Standing_Relationships
Yes, completing storyline missions for Ammatar Agents will give derived Faction Standing increase to Amarr and Caldari. The Servant Sisters of Eve will give derived Faction standing increase to Gallente and Minmatar.
If Amarr is the lowest 'Unfriendly' Faction standing, then Caldari Faction standing is probably higher and is a better option to quickly gain standings to start working the 'Plan'. Look for Caldari (or Amarr) corporations located in the regions you can safely travel and start with level 1 quality 0 agents and grind missions for storylines.
If no Amarr or Caldari corporation agents (Level 1 Quality 0) are available in the regions you can safely travel, then look for Ammatar or Khanid Kingdom Corporation Agents. Now if you have above -2.00 Faction standing with Ammatar or Khanid, then go with the highest level/quality agent available.
Keep checking the Amarr and Caldari Faction Standings and as soon as one of them is above -5.00, start working the 'Plan' with the Tutorial, Career, Circle, etc Agents.
Most importantly train up the Social skills - Diplomacy, Social, Negotiation and Connections.
Good luck.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.11.08 12:16:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Kary Tamona Hi, friendly bump as this thread is helping me a lot.
Thank you for the 'Friendly' bump, I think. The main thing to remember is that each of us needs to play this game for our own enjoyment.
Originally by: Kary Tamona For me this is easier than chasing all the tutorial/career/circle/cosmos/datacenter missions around Eve. Hope it helps, and of course YMMV.
What does YMMV mean?
I'm curious as to how you got all the Factions to be (Low) positive standings without completing any missions for those agents?
As for the Event Agents listed in the 'Plan'. You don't have to do any of them, especially if your Faction Standings aren't that bad. Bouncing between Factions and training the Social skills will fix that. The Tutorial/Career/Circle Agents are used to bring Faction Standing from -5.00 to above -2.00 along with some of the Data Center Agents. (The Cake)
The rest of the Data Center Agents and Cosmos Agents are used to accelerate the process of gaining high Faction Standings. (The Ice Cream)
The Epic Arc Agents are to put the Faction Standings well over the top and more or less keep them there. (The Party)
Main thing is that the Cosmos missions are very different from the regular Agent missions which makes them in my opinion very fun to complete. Granted that most of the BPC's they give are close to worthless but hey, at least the Cosmos missions are different and as I said before, very fun. I should also mention that the Cosmos missions usually have a lot of Eve eye candy to enjoy.
Doing the 'Special' Concord missions wasn't actually part of the 'Plan' either but I decided to complete those also. My main thing is to access all 'Special' Event Agents in this game. Why? Because it's different from just doing the same old repetitive regular Agent missions. And more importantly, just so I can say I did it.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.11.09 11:06:00 -
[79]
Ahhh, ok. Thanks for the clarification.
I'm glad the 'Plan' helped you and I wish you lot's of luck with your plan of action regarding Faction standings. I myself intend on completing the Epic Arcs every 3 months as well.
The Cosmos missions are indeed very different from regular missions with lot's of eye candy. Not to mention I also enjoy the storyline pertaining to those missions.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.11.16 18:07:00 -
[80]
The information posted above is correct. I guess I need to change the statement listed in the 'Plan' a little bit.
The reason I said to complete the first mission of the level 4 Epic Arcs and then let it sit in the journal is because that's the only time your standings will be checked. There is no time limit on accepting the next Epic Arc mission.
I should have included that either Faction or Corporation standing of +6.80 or higher is needed to access the starting agent. If you grind Corporation standing and complete the starting agent mission for each level 4 Epic Arc, you can have all 4 Arcs listed in the journal active and waiting.
I've completed all Factions lv 3 and lower Cosmos agents along with all Tutorial, Career, Circle and most of the Data Center Agents, it now looks like I'll have to complete all of the level 4 Epic Arcs to gain access to the level 4 Cosmos Agents.
This is actually a good thing because after completing all Factions level 4 Cosmos Agents, I should then be able to access the Epic Arcs again to further boost my Faction standings and hopefully be able or close to accessing the Faction ship offers.
This 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' is actually a 'work in progress' and as such is subject to a few small changes along the way. As I complete each and every step of the 'Plan', I make the necessary changes and always list any edit's done to the 'Plan'. Once I've completed everything, this 'Plan' will become a 'Guide' which I'll post in the Evelopedia.
Lately I've been busy grinding Corporation standings for Research Agents. As of right now I have access to top level/quality Research Agents with Amarr, Ammatar, Gallente, Minmatar and Thukker. After I gain access to Caldari Research Agents, I'll then go complete all level 4 Epic Arcs and then work the level 4 Cosmos Agents.
Once again, thank you all for taking the time to read and reply to this thread. I wish you all the best of luck and hope the information in this 'Plan' helps everyone as much as it has helped me.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.11.17 13:49:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Bernardo Guii Hey DMC, great guide! Thanks a ton, buddy!
Thank you very much.
Originally by: Bernardo Guii What do you mean "you can ONLY decline the first mission..." The first one is repeatable? You can decline it and get it again later? Other COSMOS agents must have their mission completed or you lose it?
Most of the Cosmos Agents will offer a multi-part mission. When you first talk to any of the agents, you can decline part 1 of the Agent's mission series until you're ready to do it. This will keep the offer out of your journal so it won't have a countdown expire timer going. This is only good for the Agent's first mission offer. After it's completed, you'll have the next part offered and listed in your journal which will have the expire timer (1 week to accept). If you decline it, quit or let it expire, the mission series will end and you'll no longer have access to that Agent. The offered 2nd, 3rd, 4th part, etc, showing in the journal can be viewed for details which will allow you time to find and acquire the specific item or items to complete the mission before accepting it.
Originally by: Bernardo Guii Also, I thought that COSMOS missions needed to be done in a specific order, as in, one agent refers to the next, and so on. Or do I have that mixed up with something else?
Some of the Cosmos Agents will give you a specific item and a referral to another Agent. The Guides linked in the 'Plan' will list those Agents in their specific order.
Originally by: Bernardo Guii Long before I knew what COSMOS missions were, I took a mission and could not finish it. It was a level 1 mission, but I could not obtain the required item before the timer popped. Am I screwed for COSMOS missions or, if that was my first one, can I just repeat it?
Now this is what I'm talking about. If you had talked to the Agent and viewed his first mission offer without accepting it and then declined it, you would of had time to locate and obtain the required item. If it was the 2nd or 3rd part, etc of the mission series, you'd have 1 week to accept it and then another week to complete it. Anyway, sorry to say this but that Agent is no longer available. Hopefully it wasn't an important one. If that Agent gave an item for referral to another Agent, you can probably get the item from public contracts. On the bright side, all the other Agents are still available.
Originally by: Bernardo Guii I thought that you had to DO 16 missions to GET a storyline mission. If you decline them all, then how do you get the storyline missions? Also, doesn't declining missions damage your standing? I know I must be missing something.
All of the Agents listed in this 'Plan' are Event Agents. Almost all Event Agents offer a 'Storyline' mission for Faction Standing increase. There are a few Event Agents that only offer a 1 part mission which doesn't give any Faction Standing increase when completed. These Agents are the ones I am referring to when I advise to decline their mission offer. When offered a mission, always check your journal before accepting. If it doesn't show 'Important Storyline' and it is only a single mission, decline it. The time and isk spent to complete it just isn't worth it. No negative standings will be incurred. The multi-part mission offers will usually be the 'Important Storyline' with Faction Standing increase when completed.
Originally by: Bernardo Guii My apologies for the small and possibly stupid questions.
No need to be sorry, the only stupid questions are the ones that aren't asked. If you're not sure about something then definitely ASK about it. In this game, Information is King and Conversation is it's Queen.
I hope this information helps and if there's anything else that you're unsure about, just ask and I'll be more than happy to clarify and or explain.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.11.19 09:18:00 -
[82]
You're welcome and thanks for the complement.
Yes there is a lot of information that can be added but each post only allows a set amount of text and the URL links take up quite a bit of space. Also as I said, this 'Plan' is a work in progress and until I complete each and every step, is subject to a few small changes.
As soon as I complete this 'Plan', I'll then take all of the URL's, steps, notes, questions and answers and compile it all into a 'Guide' which will be more precise with a lot more clarification.
As always, I'll be sure to keep everyone updated with my progress while working this 'Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.12.10 21:49:00 -
[83]
Thanks Max, it's always good to hear that.
At this time the only repeatable agents that I know about to gain Faction Standing increase with are the Epic Arc agents, once every 3 months.
If any other Event Agents are recruited and become active, I'll be sure to research their info and list them. Also if anyone else happens to locate any new Event Agents, please list them here and I'll be sure to update their info into the 'Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.12.19 19:06:00 -
[84]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 19/12/2010 19:13:41
Thank you very much, it's good to hear this 'Plan' is helping players with Faction standings.
Yes, the majority of the agents in this 'Plan' can only be accessed one time. After completing all of the Event Agent missions, you'll still be able to raise Faction standings with the Epic Arc's every three months.
The Tutorial agents give you a bookmark to one of the Career Agents and if you follow the 'Plan', you'll still access that agent so actually you're not missing it.
Social skills help a lot, in fact very much so that it's a good idea to train up those skills asap.
The section about the Research Agents was just an afterthought to provide another way to help equal up lop sided standings along with the Sisters of Eve level 1 Epic Arc. The Research Agents are not a crucial aspect of this "plan' for repairing negative Faction standings. Datacores can be used as a way to gain passive isk once you have the required standings and skills.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Research_agent
I hope this answers your questions and thank you again for posting. Good luck to you and I hope you all have continued success working this 'Faction Standing Repair Plan'.
I'll be posting another update of my stats and progress very soon.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2010.12.27 21:22:00 -
[85]
Thanks,
Good luck to you in working this 'Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.02 11:30:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Ontoy I am trying to fix my gallente faction standing (-5.4 atm) and tried to do the gallente tutorial mission, I ran past a few sentry gun system and finally got my first tutorial mission, when I warp to the location in the same system, bam bam bam, an Federation NPC was right there at the spot and it blown up my ship before I warp out....
What went wrong? my guess is I should instead of go to gallente space, I should work for their buddy the Minmatar? I am also training Diplo IV atm and wish it help.
Sorry to hear that.
Yes, training Diplomacy will help a lot. Now if your Minmatar Faction standing is above -5.00 then yes, do some of the Minmatar Event Agent missions until Gallente is above -5.00 Faction standing. Then you can enter Gallente space and work the Gallente Event Agents.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.03 01:34:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 03/01/2011 01:43:05 Thanks, hope you continue to have good luck.
Yes, Faction Navy NPC's will attack you if you enter their space with a Faction standing of -5.00 or lower, regardless of your corporation standing or your security status.
To be able to freely travel anywhere in Eve, all your Empire Faction standing's must be above -5.00 and your security status must be above -2.00.
Access to high level agents :
Faction Standing - high standing allows access to all agents of all corps in that specific Faction. Corporation Standing - high standing allows access to all agents in that specific Corporation. Agent Standing - high standing allows access to that specific Agent.
As was stated, if any of those 3 standings drop to -2.00 or lower, you'll only have access to level 1 quality 0 or lower agents.
I hope this answers your questions.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.03 11:11:00 -
[88]
You're welcome and thanks for posting.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.04 02:08:00 -
[89]
Yeah, the player who posted that was incorrect about a few things which I had pointed out in a reply to that post. It's like the old saying - 'You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.'
Originally by: Nerror theTerror I still have to work out how to keep every single faction standing above -2.00, but it looks like it should be possible if I am picky about my missions.
One of my goals is to complete all Event Agent missions which also includes the Pirate Faction Event Agents.
After gaining high Empire Faction standings, it'll be easy to gain positive Angel and Guristas Faction standings by completing the Pirate Epic Arcs every 3 months.
Those 2 Factions also have some Cosmos Agents. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0911/Carebear_COSMOS_Extreme_v1.2.pdf
As for the other Pirate Factions, that'll be a challenge and quite a major task to complete. CCP Devs have said they would eventually create Epic Arcs for the other Pirate Factions but haven't given a date as to when this would happen.
Most players believe that one or more Factions will always be negative standing no matter what you do. I believe with the right planing, skills and as you said, completing specific missions, all Factions can be positive standing. Maybe not high positive standing but still positive.
Only time will tell.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.05 00:42:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Sieges Is it always possible to recover standings? For example, let's say I followed The Plan and then later let my standings plummet. Can I always find a Level 1 Quality -18 agent with a Corp/Faction I can work for even if I am -5.0 and lower with that Corp/Faction?
Hi, thanks for posting.
Yes it's always possible to recover negative standings. However it may take quite a while to do it, depending on the circumstances.
The majority of the Agents listed in the 'Plan' are a one time use for the lifetime of the player character. If you were to follow and complete all of the Event Agent missions listed in the 'Plan' and then let your Faction standings plummet again, the only ones you'd have access to would be the Epic Arc Agents.
Yes, all regular Level 1 Quality 0 or lower Agents are always available to everyone regardless of standings so those Agents could be considered the last resort option to regain positive standings.
Hopefully this answered your questions.
Good luck to you.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:04:00 -
[91]
Xolido, thanks.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.10 23:20:00 -
[92]
Originally by: munitqua Edited by: munitqua on 10/01/2011 18:59:20 Edited by: munitqua on 10/01/2011 18:46:27 Great guide! I want to get into Minmatar FW and this guide is perfect to get my -2.65 back to at least 0.0 :P
Thanks man!
Hey guys, i cant do the tutorial agent missions for minmatar, my standings are -2.5 with minmatar, and my sec status is -1.38. How ever i can access the career agent missions
Thanks, hope this helps.
All level 1 quality 0 and lower Agents are available to everyone regardless of Faction standings. All Career, Tutorial, Circle and a few Data Center along with some Cosmos Agents are at that level. As long as the Faction standing is above -5.00 and your Security Status is above -2.00, you can enter Minmatar high security space to complete those missions.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.11 10:25:00 -
[93]
You're welcome.
You should be able to access the Minmatar Tutorial, Career and Circle Agents with the standings you posted. If you can't access those agents, send a petition ingame - F12 key (Eve Help) - Create new petition - Stuck Character.
I hope you have good luck working this 'Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.12 22:33:00 -
[94]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 12/01/2011 22:35:22 Thanks for posting.
I don't know what level of Diplomacy or Connections you currently have but training Diplomacy up to lv 5 will help raise the negative Caldari standing a lot. Training the Connections skill will help keep and increase the positive Minmatar standing.
If you have all Empire Faction standings above -5.00 and your Security Status is above -2.00, then you can freely travel anywhere and already have access to the Sisters of Eve level 1 Epic Arc.
My suggestion is to complete the SoE arc for Caldari Faction. That will give you +8.75% Caldari Faction standing increase without hurting your Minmatar Faction standing. Hopefully that will be enough to gain access to the higher level Caldari agents.
The other option is to do the 'Bounce' action between Caldari and Minmatar Event Agents listed in the 'Plan'. Each one of those Agents give Faction and Corporation standing increase. Of course you'll also get some negative derived standings which is the reason for the 'Bounce' action. You only have to raise Caldari Faction standing above -2.00 to access the higher level Agents of Expert Distribution Corporation which will allow you to quickly gain the corp standing needed for access to the Caldari level 4 Epic Arc.
Sometimes you just have to give up a little bit of standing with one Faction in order to gain a lot of standing with another Faction. There are a lot of Event Agents so gaining back the lost standing should be no problem.
Hope this helps and good luck to you.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.13 11:26:00 -
[95]
Originally by: munitqua
Yah i cant do any Tutorials! Ive tried 5 or 6 agents. Anyway, its lost faction standing for now, but i can continue with the plan. I see that data center missions give a lot of faction standing, so i hope im done with grinding missions after those :P
Sorry to hear that.
All Tutorial Agents are Level 1 Quality -20 and are available to all players regardless of standings. Each agent mission offer can only be completed once in the life of the players character.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Tutorial_Agents
The only reason I can think of for you not having access to them now is maybe you've already completed their missions before, back when you first started playing the game.
If not, then definitely send a petition ingame. Anyway, there's 15 Minmatar Tutorial Agents, maybe you haven't completed missions for all of them. Also completing the Gallente Event Agent missions will give derived Faction standing increase towards Minmatar.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.14 06:15:00 -
[96]
Yes, you get Faction standing increase for completing part 10 of the Career Agents mission series.
You should be able to access all agents that are level 1 quality 0 and lower regardless of your standings. All you need to have is all Empire Faction standings above -5.00 and your Security Status above -2.00 to freely travel into all Empire Factions space. If you have that, you can also access the Sisters of Eve Level 1 Epic Arc and complete it for Minmatar and receive +8.75% Faction standing increase.
As for not being able to access the Tutorial Agents, I don't know what to say about that except send a petition in-game.
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.15 23:08:00 -
[97]
Goran Grafth, thank you for posting, it's always good to hear that.
Hope you have continued good luck working the 'Plan'.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.17 03:29:00 -
[98]
Oh yea of little faith.
The 3 month timer starts when the Epic Arc is completed.
As for my not posting statistics, yes, I've been grinding Corporation standings to gain access to high level Research Agents. One of my goals was to have access to all Research Agents in all 13 R&D Corporations. Most players think there's only 4 Factions with R&D Corporations when actually there's 7 Factions.
Amarr Empire: * Carthum Conglomerate * Viziam - no storyline agent
Ammatar Mandate: * Nefantar Miner Association
Caldari State: * Ishukone Corporation * Kaalakiota Corporation * Lai Dai Corporation - no storyline agent
Gallente Federation: * CreoDron * Duvolle Laboratories * Roden Shipyards
Khanid Kingdom: * Khanid Innovation - no storyline agent
Minmatar Republic: * Boundless Creation * Core Complexion
Thukker Tribe: * Thukker Mix
As of right now I have access to the highest Research Agent in 7 of the 13 R&D Corporations.
Carthum Conglomerate Core Complexion Duvolle Laboratories Ishukone Corporation Nefantar Miner Association Roden Shipyards Thukker Mix
Also there are in fact 8 different Factions that control high security systems which is commonly know as Empire space.
Amarr Empire Ammatar Mandate Caldari State Concord Assembly Gallente Federation Khanid Kingdom Minmatar Republic The Interbus
I'd like to add that I also do Exploration, Invention and Manufacturing to break up the monotony of constantly grinding missions. Actually, when I do Exploration (which I like), I tend to lose all track of time.
For those that want to check my eveboard stats = DeMichael_Crimson
Update on statistics:
Empire Faction Standings (Modified): Caldari State +5.80, Amarr Empire +5.26, Khanid Kingdom +5.24, Ammatar Mandate +5.00, Minmatar Republic +5.00, The Interbus +4.99, Gallente Federation +4.39, Concord Assembly +2.56,
Social Skills: Social lv 5 Connections lv 5 Fast Talk lv 5 Diplomacy lv 5 Negotiation lv 5
Security Status: +5.85
Data Center Tags completed: Minmatar = Angel Crystal and lower - need Gold Gallente = Serpentis Diamond and lower - need Brass and Gold Caldari = Guristas Crystal and lower - need Brass Amarr = Blood Crystal and lower - need Gold Ammatar = Sansha Crystal and lower - need Gold
Epic Arcs Completed: Level 1 Sisters Of Eve = 3x (1x Minmatar, 1x Amarr, 1x Gallente) Level 4 Amarr = Started Level 4 Caldari = Started Level 4 Gallente = Started Level 4 Minmatar = Started
Tutorial, Career, Circle Agents Completed: All Empire Factions
Cosmos Agents Completed: All Empire Factions = level 3 and lower
Special Agents Completed (Security Status): Christer Fuglesang = Concord Jeremy Tacs = Concord
Items recieved from Cosmos Agents: 132 COSMOS storyline BPC's 12 COSMOS storyline modules
I have about 1 week of skill training left to complete for Command Ships. I was planning on flying a Sleipnir to do the level 4 Epic Arcs. As you can see my average Faction standing is +5.00 and above for most of the Empire Factions.
As usual, I'll be sure to post my updated stats as soon as I complete the level 4 Epic Arcs.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.17 11:16:00 -
[99]
Female Face, thank you very much. I'm glad the 'Plan' helped your main character.
I looked at your post and I'm sorry to say I don't know too much about how much isk to charge others in helping to increase their corp/agent standings. There's a lot of variables to consider. Besides the standings, isk and LP's being shared, the corp itself should account for something as well. And then there's also the time you'll spend doing it.
I'm a bit stingy when it comes to standings, meaning that if I'm taking the time to build up my standings, they should also take the time and do it for themselves.
Now if they were to be an active member in the fleet and help complete the missions, then that's a totally different situation.
Anyway, good luck to you in whatever you decide to do.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.02.08 11:19:00 -
[100]
Just wanted to say that I can now fly a Sleipnir which I had planed to use to complete the level 4 Epic Arcs and level 4 Cosmos Agent missions.
After checking my skills and ship skill requirements, I noticed that with a couple of days training I'll also be able to fly a Machariel.
Now the hard part, decisions, decisions,,,,,,,,,
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.02.16 05:17:00 -
[101]
Hello Kintrell,
No problem, I'll check it out for you and leave a reply.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.02.18 19:01:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Xanthar Rex Holy mother, that is an impressive amount of research and effort there DeMichael. You should be awarded an honorary PhD for that!
Keep us updated on your progress, I'm sure ISD would be interested in a headline article once you've obtained your goal :)
Xanthar Rex, thanks.
This was posted back towards the beginning of this thread.
Originally by: The history says, "DeMichael Crimson single-handedly compiled bits of shattered, hidden wisdoms into a great milestone that lead to true peace with most recognized powers of New Eden. In doing so, he so bravely rescued uncountable numbers of cursed souls from evil CCP's bloody hands that CCP's grudging evil groan is still heard these days"
Anyway, thanks again for posting. I'll definitely keep updating this thread with the statistics of my progress from working this 'Plan'.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.03.07 03:51:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Linda Shadowborn I thought the sisters epic arc didnt give any standing increase http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Blood-Stained_Stars
# The missions in this arc do not affect any factional standings directly, though each mission will count towards receiving a Storyline Mission from the Sisters of EVE, which will affect standings normally.
Or did you mean purely for the possible storyline?
Hello Linda,
During the level 1 Sisters of Eve Epic Arc, players should receive one or two storyline missions offered by the Sisters of Eve Faction for completing various missions.
Towards the end of the level 1 Sisters of Eve Epic Arc, players are offered a choice of which Faction (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar) to side with for the final battle to capture Dagan. After Dagan is captured, the next mission will have the player transport Dagan to a SOE Prison Barge located in another system. That is the last mission for the Arc.
After completing the Arc, players will receive +8.75% Faction standing increase with the Faction that was chosen for the final battle.
All of the Epic Arcs can be redone every three months for Faction standing increase.
I hope this answers your question. Thanks for posting and good luck to you.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.03.09 04:52:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Dsan Edited by: Dsan on 08/03/2011 18:06:17 Looking at this topic and reading it, I got the idea that this "guide" or all this information should be preserved, maybe or preferably outside these forums. :S It seems it's very useful to a lot of people and very popular, I'd hate to see it drown on the forums :P
Consider doing something yourself, I feel it should almost be copyrighted or something :P Otherwise I'd be happy to try and make a website version of it maybe.
Dsan, thanks.
Yeah, this 'Plan' is indeed very useful and helpful for a lot of players.
Since I continue posting updates of my stats while working this 'Plan', this thread will stay alive for a while, at least until I complete it. Also with other players who are in need of Faction standing repair asking questions and or posting thanks for the info, I doubt this thread will 'drown' in the forums.
As soon as I complete all of the Event Agents listed in the 'Plan', I was going to condense all of the information, questions and answers into a 'GUIDE' for the Evelopedia.
However, contact me when I'm online and ingame and we'll talk more about your suggestions.
As usual, I'll be sure to post my updated stats asap.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.03.09 04:56:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Nina Mercedez Linda, thanks for posting.
Just to make sure that nobody is confused, Nina Mercedez is not my alt.
P.S.
Nina, thanks for posting.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.03.24 19:45:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Hous BinPharteen Can the Sisters Epic Arc be redone for faction boost for the same faction? Or is it one time only per faction?
Hi Hous. That's a very good question.
Yes, the SoE arc can be completed every 3 months for just one specific Faction.
It doesn't matter how many times the arc is completed, the player will always get a choice towards the end of the arc to side with one of the four major Factions, either Amarr, Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar.
Good luck to you.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.03.24 22:01:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Hous BinPharteen So if I choose say Gallente this time and get a faction boost. I can pick Gallente again in 90 days and get another faction boost? Its not a one time only for each faction?
Yes, you can redo the SoE arc every 90 days for Gallente and still receive Faction standing increase each time.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.03.25 11:19:00 -
[108]
You're welcome and good luck to you.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.03.25 23:40:00 -
[109]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 25/03/2011 23:46:14
I actually have no idea exactly how high the Faction standings will be after completing all of the Event Agent missions listed in this 'Plan'. Add in the Epic Arcs which can be completed every 3 months, players should be able to easily gain very high positive Faction standings.
After I finish completing the level 4 Cosmos Agent missions, the only missions I'll probably be doing will be the Epic Arcs. I'll use the R&D agent missions along with the SoE level 1 Epic Arc to help equal out any lop sided standings. Eventually I see no problem at all in getting close to max standing with all Empire Factions. Since I mainly like to do exploration, this will work great.
For those doing regular missions, decline all Anti-Empire Faction encounter missions and bounce between the Factions after each set of 16 regular missions + storyline and continue using the Epic Arcs to keep increasing the Faction standings. The trick with doing the regular missions + storyline is you'll have to continually keep watch on the standings and bounce back and forth between the Factions whenever needed.
As for the type of encounter missions (Anti-Empire verses Anti-Pirate) being offered by the agents, I've done missions for all agent divisions and corporations including Command division agents in Military Corporations. I rarely ever get offered any Anti-Empire Faction encounter missions and almost always get offered Anti-Pirate Faction encounter missions along with a few Rogue Drone encounters. I believe the negative Faction standings as well as the type of missions being accepted and completed play a major role in this.
I wish you all the best of luck and as usual, I'll continue to post my progress and updated statistics while working this 'Plan'. My latest update can be viewed here.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.03.30 11:09:00 -
[110]
This 'Plan' should help you as much as it's helped me. I wish you lot's of luck.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.01 05:47:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Electra Magnetic You should consider changing the circle and data center agents links to these:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Data_Centers http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Circle_Agents
They are much more complete and easier to follow.
Great guide
Thanks. Glad you like the 'Plan'.
As for the links, I had changed those a long time ago back when I created the Event_Agents page.
If you look down at the bottom of those Evelopedia pages, you'll see my name listed on most of them.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.02 11:19:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk is correct in saying no.
However, there is a couple ways to cause Corporation standings to fall.
1) Fail or quit a mission that's been accepted.
2) Attack the corporation's member ships or structures.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.05 22:40:00 -
[113]
Adophnil, thank you very much. I'm glad the 'Plan' helped you.
I hope everyone has as much success as I've had working this 'Plan'.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.07 14:14:00 -
[114]
Ifly Uwalk, thank you very much. Feel free to 'Bump' the 'Plan' anytime.
Originally by: Petrified First off: good guide, I was able to get my standings up high enough to anchor a POS in .5 Caldari space.
I just noticed an issue over this past weekend: my standings for the Caldari dropped from just over 5.0 to 4.65 due to starting to run the Career agent missions for the Gallente. None of them involved shooting at Caldari, and, per the guide, running the missions should not effect other standings. I checked the transactions for the standing decrease and it was all attributed to missions I ran over the weekend and were marked for helping an enemy or harming an ally of the Caldari state.
Did I miss something or did a recent update fix/break this?
Petrified, I'm glad the 'Plan' helped you to anchor a POS in high security. You're the first player to say that.
However, I guess you missed the part about how the standings will do a 'Sea-Saw' while working this 'Plan'. That is the reason for keeping an eye on the standings and doing the 'Bounce' action to the other Factions when needed.
Completing missions for the Event Agents listed in this 'Plan' will give derived standings, both positive and negative, towards the other Factions. Those missions can only be completed once in the life of the Character.
The only exception is the Epic Arcs. Those only give Faction standing increase to the specific Faction and NO derived standings towards the other Factions. They can be redone every 3 months for Faction standing increase.
I hope this clears things up for you and I wish you continued success.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.10 03:28:00 -
[115]
Hello Eve,
Just wanted to let everyone know that the first four posts of this thread, aka the 'Plan', has been transfered over to the new Forums in the Missions and Complexes section with the original title 'Faction Standing Repair Plan'.
I will continue to update the new thread with my progress and stats while working the 'Plan' as well as update the URL links and info whenever needed. I'll also be answering all questions posted by players. Since there's a lot of valuable information contained in this old thread resulting from previous questions and answers, I've included a link to this old thread in the new Forum thread.
I wish you all the very best of luck and much success.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.12 10:56:00 -
[116]
Seems CCP has another patch ready for Eve players again. Hopefully it'll include a fix for the new Forums.
If it does and the new Forums are clean with no threads, I'll be sure to once again transfer the original plan over to it. If not, then I'll see you all here again.
Fly smart and stay safe.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.12 21:53:00 -
[117]
Good question. These links do an excellent job of explaining how it works.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Standing
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Mission_guide#Modifying_Standings
Good luck on the math.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.13 22:54:00 -
[118]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 13/04/2011 22:57:32
Aislynn McAllister, thank you very much.
It's always good to hear from players who have repaired negative Faction standings quickly due to working this 'Plan'.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.13 23:44:00 -
[119]
Nerror theTerror, thank you very much for the tip about the 'Shaman Secrets' cert mission series for Minmatar. I knew there was a second Event Agent introduced during the mission series. What I didn't know about was the second 'side' mission available from that Agent.
When I did the cert mission series, I accepted and completed the first mission offer 'Snatching the Shaman' and didn't receive an offer for the second side mission 'The Shaman Will'. So congratulations to you. It would be good to know if the other Faction's cert mission series also have a second side mission offer available from the second Event Agent.
Once again, thank you very much. When you do check out the other Faction's cert missions, please post your findings asap and I'll update the 'Plan' with this new information.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.15 11:12:00 -
[120]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 15/04/2011 11:12:30
Nerror theTerror, thanks for the updates. It's starting to look like Minmatar is the only Faction with a 2nd side mission offer for a bit more standing increase. Looking forward to your report on Caldari.
Originally by: Casanunda Thanks for this guide, I didn't realise you could run the SOE arc more than once, I've redone it to boost my abysmal Gallente standings to a positive state (diplomacy iv ftw here) and run the first of the Gallente cosmos missions. I've just got to grind for the storyline missions now so I can do the next cosmos agent.
Thanks for the info, most handy.
Casanunda, you're welcome. Glad to hear this 'Plan' is helping you. There are other Event Agents listed that will help increase Gallente Faction standing besides Cosmos, such as the Tutorial, Career and Circle Agents. Also the Data Center 'Cert' and tag missions. Grinding regular missions for storylines to advance up to next level of Cosmos will work but it takes a while longer than completing the Event Agent missions. Remember, you can still gain Gallente Faction standing from completing the Minmatar Event Agent missions.
Anyway, good luck and much success to you.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.15 23:11:00 -
[121]
It's a shame that the other Factions don't have a 2nd 'Side' mission option to gain a bit more Faction standing like the Minmatar.
Thanks for the update and extra info about the Data Center Cert' missions. I'll be sure to add it to my notes for when I rewrite and change the 'Plan' into a 'Guide'.
Much success to you and thanks again.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.15 23:49:00 -
[122]
What?
It's not?
I thought it was.
Well, that's a question for CCP to answer. I don't think they check this thread very often. Actually, they've probably never even looked at it.
You could always ask them yourself and then post the answer here for everyone to see.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.16 11:23:00 -
[123]
Kirin Xaxos, it's great to hear the 'Plan' has helped you a lot.
I plan to rewrite the Faction Standing Repair Plan and turn it into a guide for Evelopedia after I complete all the Event Agent missions. Since I like to do exploration it's taking me longer than anticipated to complete but I'll soon be back working the 'Plan' again. Just a few of the Tag missions left along with the level 4 Cosmos Agents which I'll tackle right after the level 4 Epic Arcs.
Anyway, thanks for posting and I hope you have continued success working the 'Plan'.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.20 02:24:00 -
[124]
Yeah, that's correct.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.21 18:54:00 -
[125]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 21/04/2011 18:59:22
Well, this 'Faction Standing Repair Plan' is mainly intended for the Empire Factions and in working this 'Plan' makes all the Pirate Faction standings negative.
I've looked at the possibility of also getting the Pirate Faction standings positive but that will take some work. I still have to do more research on that but this is the general idea.
I'm thinking when all of the Empire Faction standings are at a very high positive level from completing all of the Event Agent missions listed in this 'Plan', it should be fairly easy to raise some of the Pirate Faction standings with the level 3 Pirate Epic Arcs. There's currently two of them, Angel and Guristas, which give +30% standing increase for completion. There's also an option to switch sides in the Amarr level 4 Epic Arc and complete it for Sansha to gain +12.75% standing increase. Then there are also some Pirate Faction Cosmos Agents but that involves derived standings.
Like I said, I still need to do more research.
As for your question, definitely train up Diplomacy to help raise the negative Faction standings. Since you're doing missions for Pirates, it makes sense that the majority of encounter missions being offered would be against Empire Factions.
All of the Event Agent missions (Tutorial, Career, Circle, Data Center and Cosmos) listed in this 'Plan' can only be completed once per character and they will give both positive and negative derived standings to all of the other Factions.
The only exception is the Epic Arcs. The Epic Arcs can be completed every 3 months and give no derived standings to the other Factions. There are a few missions that give negative standings for ship and or structure kills. The amount of negative standing incurred is very small when compared to the amount of positive standing gained (+12.75%) for completing the Epic Arcs. To start the level 4 Epic Arcs, the starting agents corporation standing needs to be +6.80 and the Faction standing needs to be above -2.00 for access. It can also be accessed with just Faction standing above +6.80.
Since you're at -4.00 with Amarr, I suggest doing the Sisters of Eve level 1 Epic Arc and complete it for Amarr which will give you +8.75% standing increase. The only standings required for the SoE level 1 Epic Arc is to be able to enter high security systems so you'll need to have all Empire Factions above -5.00 and your security status above -2.00.
Maybe if you can get the Amarr standing above -2.00, you can then grind some corporation standings for the starting Agent and then complete the Amarr level 4 Epic Arc along with the SoE level 1 Epic Arc for Amarr. Then I guess you can continue with the Sansha missions and complete those 2 Epic Arcs every 3 months to help offset the Sansha missions. I don't know how long that would work since I don't know the type of missions being offered or the amount of derived standings incurred for completing those.
I don't know if all of the Factions can be made positive. Most of them can be positive with some careful work. When I first came up with this 'Plan', the standings game mechanic made it so there was going to be some negative Factions. With the Epic Arcs, that has changed.
Anyway, I hope this has been helpful and I wish you good luck.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.21 20:01:00 -
[126]
Yeah, you could run through all the Amarr and Caldari low level Event Agents and complete the SoE Arc for Amarr and with Diplomacy level 5 you just might get Amarr Faction standing up over -2.00 to access the Amarr level 4 Epic Arc. Course the Social and Negotiation skills will help a lot too.
Anyway, Good luck to you.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.21 22:06:00 -
[127]
Qalix, thanks.
Yeah, you're right.
With the proper planning and some time, players can have positive Faction standings with all Empire Factions and most of the Pirate Factions. With 3 different starting Agents for both Angel and Guristas level 3 Pirate Epic Arcs, gaining access to them should be no problem. I thought it was +4.60 standing needed to access those agents but hey, +4.35 makes it even easier.
Anyway, that's why I said they would be fairly easy to get positive standings with since they give +30.00% standing gain for completion. Sansha would take a bit longer to get positive due to the level 4 Amarr Epic Arc only giving +12.75% standing gain.
To get positive with Blood Raiders and Serpentis would be a lot of work grinding regular missions plus storylines. The derived standings from that would mess with all the other Faction standings. Thukker Tribe would also be tricky to get positive. The only Faction positive to them is Minmatar.
Thukker, Angel and Guristas also have Cosmos Agents which would incur more derived standings, both positive and negative, towards all the other Factions.
As I said, more research would have to be done to see if it's possible to get all Factions positive. That's a project to be worked on sometime in the future. Hopefully by then CCP will have created Epic Arc's for Thukker, Blood Raiders and Serpentis.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.21 22:11:00 -
[128]
Originally by: ValentinaDLM
Originally by: TImora Fosty Edited by: TImora Fosty on 21/04/2011 05:55:38 Edited by: TImora Fosty on 21/04/2011 05:54:50 Need an advice Mr. Crimson I'm currently grinding lvl 4 mission from Sansha in Stain, they mostly give me missions against factions (especcially Amarr), i haven't leveled diplamacy yet and have -4 standing with Amarr Empire, how shall i act after training diplomacy to constantly keep my amarrian standings over -5.0 over time? I assume that those Cosmos missions etc. are available every 3 months aren't they?
I am working on my sansha standings actually, one tip is if you do tho amarr epic are and you don't have a friend with you do not kill the sentry guns or neut towers, the give a -3% Sansha loss, the rats themselves give very little loss. luckily I have had alts and friends kill the rats and such so I took no penalties.
I don't know how the final chapter is siding with amarr (as i am backwards I have fine amarr standing but poor sansha faction standing), but if you can deal without killing the sansha towers you should be able to get a pretty good boost from it without much penalty.
Also if you note your standings transactions you will see that when you mission in stain if you avoid killing the structures and sentry guns you don't lose standing too quick, so I would try and decline amarr missions that have you kill structures if you can.
Excellent information.
Thank you for sharing that.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.22 10:11:00 -
[129]
Nerror theTerror, thanks.
You're right in your advice if it pertained to the other Event Agents, the SoE level 1 Epic Arc and the Empire Faction level 4 Epic Arcs.
However, the level 3 Pirate Epic Arcs are a bit different. The agents and missions are located in low/0.0 security systems so a players security status doesn't matter.
You're also correct about the starting Agents, Amarr or Minmatar, as well as training up the Social skills which definitely will help.
I sense the Force is strong in you and I could use your help. Please contact me in-game, my young Apprentice.
DMC
Originally by: Maladeu o/
I am getting dizzy from all this faction/corp/personal -standings. I wanna do missions for Archangels. I have -10.0 with Angel Cartel -1.54 with Archangels and a security status of -6.8
Am I totally screwed? How would you do it?
Have no fear.
As Nerror theTerror said, if you haven't tanked the Minmatar or Amarr Faction standings, you can still access the Angel Pirate level 3 Epic Arc.
Agents look at standings modified by the Social skills. The minimum standing required is Faction standing (Amarr or Minmatar) above -2.00 and the Corporation standing of the starting Agent at +4.35 or higher. If you already have Amarr or Minmatar Faction standing at +4.35 or higher, you can access the Epic Arc starting agent without having to grind any Corporation standings.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Epic_mission_arcs#Angel_Sound This lists the three starting Agents and their location.
Social skills will definitely help a lot. Training up Diplomacy will decrease the current amount of negative standing, Social (for Empire Agents), Negotiation (all Agents) and Criminal Connections (for Pirate Agents) will increase the amount of standing gained for completing missions. When the standing becomes positive, the Connections skill will help increase the current positive standings.
http://lorebook.eve-inspiracy.com/ Good guide for the Epic Arcs and lore.
There you have it. Check your Amarr and Minmatar Faction standings. If high enough, go to one of the Factions starting Agent. If not, train up the Social skills, (should already be trained to receive max rewards) and do some regular mission grinding for Corporation standings and then:
Yarrrr Matey
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.23 00:02:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Maximus Meredius DMC, thank you so much for all the info. Amazing guide.
What I'd like to know though, is if I could just buy large amount of tags from the market and skip the missions to save time? If so, where would i return the bought tags to increase standings with Gallente?
My standing with Gallante is -9.6 and at the moment thats the only one I want to work on but in a haste. Please tell me what you think.
Maximus Meredius, thank you.
Yes, it's faster to buy the 'Tags' from the market but you'll still have to talk to the agents which are located in Empire high security. At -9.6 Gallente Faction standing that's going to be very tough to do. If you enter with a ship filled with Tags, chances are it'll get destroyed and the cargo will be lost. Your Gallente Faction standing need's to be above -5.00 to freely travel without getting attacked by the NPC Navy.
The Data_Centers are mainly 'Trade' type missions except for the low level 'Cert' missions which are 'Courier' missions.
The Agent mission briefing sounds like an 'Encounter' mission but it's actually more of a 'Seek and Destroy' type thing and getting the required amount of a specific Tag type within the mission time frame is near impossible.
To access the agents above level 1 quality 0, the Gallente Faction standing needs to be above -2.00 and then grind standings with the Data Center Agents Corporation to the level listed in the Agent information.
Right now the Gallente Data Centers are not a viable option. If the Minmatar Faction standing is higher, that would be the starting point. The first step is of course training Diplomacy. Training Social and Negotiation will also help future standing rewards. After you've trained up Diplomacy, Minmatar Faction Standing will hopefully be above -5.00 and can start working the 'Plan' with them. When Gallente Faction standing gets above -5.00, can switch over and work the 'Plan' with Gallente.
If you can get all Empire Faction standings above -5.00 you can do the SoE level 1 Epic Arc and complete it for the Faction you have the lowest standing to gain a large Faction increase.
This 'Plan' is the quickest way to repair negative Faction standings. I'm sorry but there's no other faster way. Unfortunately it will take some time to work it. My advice is to re-read the original four posts of the 'Plan' again and with the statements in this reply, formulate a viable course of action to work.
I hope that answers your question. I wish you lot's of luck and much success.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.23 04:53:00 -
[131]
When entering a Factions space with a standing of -5.00 or lower, that Factions NPC Navy will attack.
If your Gallente Faction standing is the lowest, then Minmatar should be higher. Train up the Diplomacy skill so that the Minmatar Faction standing is above -5.00.
After that you can start working the Minmatar Event Agents (Tutorial, Career, Circle, etc.) listed in this 'Plan'. All of the Event Agent missions give Faction standing increase along with derived standings, both positive and negative, to the other Empire Factions.
After a while the Gallente Faction standing will get above -5.00 which is when you can start working the Gallente Event Agents listed in this 'Plan'. At that time you can also complete the Sisters of Eve level 1 Epic Arc for Gallente to help raise the Faction standing. When the Gallente Faction standing is above -2.00 you'll have access to Agents above level 1 quality 0. At that time you can continue working the 'Plan' or grind regular missions for the Gallente Data Center Agents Corporation to turn in Tags for Faction standing increase.
I wasn't talking about doing regular missions to get storyline missions. That option is for after training up Diplomacy and both of the negative Faction standings are still below -5.00. Then you'll have to find level 1 quality 0 or lower Agents located in the areas you can safely travel in and grind regular missions + storylines until one of the negative Faction standings is above -5.00. Then can start working the 'Plan'.
I hope everything is clear now. If not, just let me know and I'll try to be more precise. Good luck to you.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.25 06:27:00 -
[132]
+100 Quality
Thanks a lot and you're very welcome.
I'm glad the 'Plan' has helped you and I wish you have continued success.
When I first decided to work out a 'Plan' to repair Faction standings, I searched the Forums and other web sites for info and found bit's of information here and there. I was surprised that nobody had added it all together into a working guide. As I was doing it, I noticed lot's of other players asking about how to fix bad Faction standings and since we're all family here, I decided to post the 'Plan' while also working it. Soon after I complete all of the Event Agent missions, I'll go thru this entire thread and make a very informative and precise guide for the Evelopedia.
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To all Eve players, I have some real life issues to take care of for the next month and I won't be able to log in very much. I'll still try to check up on this thread every few days but it'll probably be more like once a week at the least.
However, Nerror theTerror has agreed to watch over this thread and help out with answers to questions. He has good knowledge on the workings of this 'Plan' and the 'Force is strong with this Apprentice'.
As I said, I'll still be checking in to make sure everything is A-OK. After I get done with this RL issue, I'll be back to flooding this thread and the Forums with my posted replies.
Once again I wish everyone good luck and much success working the Faction Standing Repair Plan.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.04.29 07:11:00 -
[133]
Well, just thought I'd check in on the thread. I'll still be busy with RL issue's for the next 3 weeks so Nerror TheTerror will be helping out.
Originally by: Dmarc Great info,
I Endorse this product
Dmarc, thanks for posting.
I'm sure your endorsement of this 'Plan' will be very helpful. Feel free to refer it to any and all Eve players who are looking to repair negative Faction standings and or boost current positive Faction standings.
DMC
Originally by: Jellobear First off,
Your guide is amazing and it's saving me loads of time. I'll be sending you a surprise later.
Second,
I recently checked your standings and I notice they're all hovering around 3.5~4.0 (No skills involved). Are you still following the plan. Any idea how high it can go right now? (6.0> for all empire factions)
Third,
Any update on whether we can also improve our pirate faction at the same time?
Thanks again for the guide!
Jellobear, thank you. I'm glad the 'Plan' is working for you.
A surprise?
As for my standings, I've only completed one mission since my last progress report. It was a Minmatar level 3 Cosmos Agent located in low security at The Alliance Barracks. Nothing much to report other than a slight shift in my Faction standings.
Since Agents look at player standings modified by Social skills, I usually post those but I'll make an exception this time. My base standings unmodified for the Factions:
Servant Sisters of EVE 8.00 Mordu's Legion Command 4.25 Minmatar Republic 4.19 = Empire Caldari State 4.11 = Empire Amarr Empire 3.83 = Empire Khanid Kingdom 3.75 = Empire The InterBus 3.74 = Empire Gallente Federation 3.60 = Empire Ammatar Mandate 3.29 = Empire ORE 2.76 Jove Empire 2.24 The Society 1.99 CONCORD Assembly 0.70 = Empire Thukker Tribe -3.70 The Syndicate -6.00 Guristas Pirates -9.75 Blood Raider Covenant -9.92 Angel Cartel -10.00 Sansha's Nation -10.00 Serpentis -10.00
Empire = Factions that control high security systems.
I still have all Factions level 4 Epic Arcs and level 4 Cosmos Agents along with a few of the Data Center Agents left to complete. Those all give a very large Faction standing increase and with max Social skills, will make a big difference. It should place me up around +7.00 and with continuing the Epic Arc missions every 3 months, I should be able to go much higher.
Many thanks to Nerror TheTerror for watching over this thread.
The advice he stated is correct. With max level Social skills and completing all of the Event Agent missions listed in the 'Plan' to gain max positive standings with all of the Empire Factions, players can then raise a few of the Pirate Factions (Angel, Guristas and Sansha) easily by completing the Epic Arcs without hurting the other Faction standings. The other Pirate Factions will just have to wait till CCP adds Epic Arcs for them. Before doing the Pirate Epic Arcs, it would be a good idea to max the skill - Criminal Connections - along with the rest of the Social skills to receive max standing increases.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0911/Carebear_COSMOS_Extreme_v1.2.pdf Pirate Cosmos Agents - guide (Completing these will give positive and negative derived standings to all other Factions)
Well, I hope this info is helpful and I'll be sure to check in again next week. Until then, good luck to everyone and again, thanks to Nerror TheTerror.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.05.01 19:04:00 -
[134]
Haruko Hebi, you're welcome.
Hope the 'Plan' helps you as much as it's helped me.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.05.09 00:18:00 -
[135]
The little Tutorial boxes?
Some of those will give skill books and modules. I just went through them and sometimes got extra items, other times it just said I had already received the item.
I'm not sure if there is a way to cancel it. Might be an option in the Esc menu to not show Tutorials.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.05.17 05:21:00 -
[136]
Mara, thanks. I wasn't sure if there was an option or not.
Since the Faction Standing Repair Plan has become a major thread in this Forum section, I just wanted to say thanks to all the players who take the time to link it for those who can benefit from it. It was created to help myself as well as everyone else in this game and even though I wrote it, I believe it belongs to the Eve Community for all to share.
DMC
With the new changes coming soon to Agent Quality and Agent Divisions, I don't think there will be much impact to this plan.
At least I hope so.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:43:00 -
[137]
Thanks for posting, I think this thread already had some glue thrown onto it but only CCP knows for sure. Would be nice to get an official reply from CCP about this.
As for the Event Agents listed in this 'Plan', my understanding of the new Agent quality changes was that all agents can be accessed as -20 quality but they pay out rewards and standings as +20 quality.
So about the only major change to this 'Plan' due to CCP's Agent Quality patch is that all regular level 1 Agents are now available to everyone regardless of standings when before it was only Agents level 1 quality 0 or lower.
Again it would be nice to get an official reply from CCP about that also.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.05.29 02:35:00 -
[138]
Thanks for posting, I think.
As for not being able to get above +4 or +5 Faction standing with all Empire Factions from working this 'Plan', I don't know where this info is coming from but it is false.
Currently I have over +5 Faction standing with almost all of the Empire Factions and I still have more of the 'Plan' left to complete.
When I first came up with the idea for this 'Plan' there were lot's of players saying there was no way to have positive standings with all Empire Factions. After I proved that it was possible, they then said the standings couldn't go above +4.00. I have proved that is possible also. Now that I have standings above +5.00 there are players saying that standings can not go above +7.00. With the level 4 Empire Epic Arcs and completing all Event Agents listed in this 'Plan', it may take some time but I see no problem getting the Faction standings well above +9.00 for all Empire Factions.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.05.31 01:23:00 -
[139]
Thank you for posting. I did read what you had posted and I'm sorry if my reply bothered you.
Bottom line is that by following this 'Plan' players can and will get well above +5.00 Faction standing with all Empire Factions.
As for my own standings, I guess you missed the post about my being busy with real life issues for the past 6 weeks which kept me out of the game. I also posted my completing only one Cosmos Agent mission within the past few months due to mainly only doing exploration. Before that I was grinding standings with R&D Corporations to gain access to Research Agents which took quite a while but I now have access to the highest R&D Agents in 7 different R&D Corporations.
Yes, you're right about the Epic Arcs in the fact that they don't give any derived standings towards other Factions. They are included in this 'Plan' and are a major factor in getting all Empire Factions above +9.00 standing. In fact, I'm currently working the level 4 Epic Arcs and after completing them, will be doing the level 4 Cosmos agents and also complete all Data Center Agents that I haven't done yet.
As usual, I'll be sure to post my stats asap. Until then, I wish everyone much success and good luck.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.05.31 10:42:00 -
[140]
Well, sorry to hear about you having a bad time, hope it gets better for you.
I posted this 'Plan' for the Eve Community. Whether it's used or not is up to each player. The main thing is that the information is available for everyone.
Agents look at standings modified by Social skills which is what I look at also - Modified Standings.
I'm not looking or trying to prove anyone wrong. The statement I made in the past still stands - Players can have well over +9.00 standing with all Empire Factions by following and working this 'Plan'.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:04:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 01/06/2011 00:11:35 akitespero,
Wow, so much hostility. Not to mention your information is wrong and incorrect. I was just about to lose my cool and post a big ole nasty rebuttal but there's no need for that.
You seem hell bent mad to rain on this parade and tear apart this 'Plan'. If there is miss-information listed in the 'Plan', please post it. If you have a better way to repair negative Faction standings, please post it.
As of right now with my level of Social skills and the amount of Event Agents I've completed, my Faction standings are still going up. So if you've completed as many Event Agents as I have and have the same level of Social skills and have noticed that the amount of positive standing gain has become equal to the negative standing hit, please link a picture and post a detailed report.
Other than that, please make sure you know for a fact that the information and advice you give is true and correct.
All standing gains are subject to the players level of Social skills, or lack thereof, which it seems you've forgotten about.
The Sisters of Eve level 1 Epic Arc gives a max amount of +8.75% Faction standing increase for completing it with the Faction of choice. It is done in high security systems. It has 52 missions and players can gain a couple of storyline mission offers while doing it.
The level 3 Pirate Epic Arcs give a max amount of +32.00% Faction standing increase. They are done in 0.0 or null security systems.
The level 4 Empire Epic Arcs give a max amount of +12.75% Faction standing increase. They are done in both high and low security systems.
As for the amount of time it takes to complete these arcs, nobody can say since it depends on the players experience, skill level, equipment used and style of play.
I apologize to the Eve Community for my temporary loss of control. Since I still have one more level 3 Cosmos Agent located in low security to complete, I'll be sure to check if the report of standing gain being equal to the amount of standing loss is indeed correct.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.03 08:20:00 -
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Well, I don't really want to beat up on a dead horse but it's time to put this baby to rest. It seemed there was an attitude and that I was being talked down to by those posted replies. Believe it or not, I did do a lot of research into this 'Plan' before I wrote and posted it. Also since it is a 'Plan', it's always subject to change and has been edited in the past. Since my base standings (unmodified) are not at +5.00 or higher, seems this whole discussion is mute anyway.
I completed a mission for one of the low security Cosmos Agents at Fort Kumar in Kenobanala system. It was a level 4 Caldari Agent.
My current Empire Faction Standings: Modified and (Base)
Minmatar Republic +5.24 (+4.05) Caldari State +5.51 (+4.39) The Interbus +4.99 (+3.74) Amarr Empire +5.18 (+3.97) Khanid Kingdom +5.18 (+3.97) Gallente Federation +4.62 (+3.28) Ammatar Mandate +4.83 (+3.53) Concord Assembly +2.56 (+0.70)
I checked my base standings for the 4 main Factions before and after and also the percentage amount of standing incurred along with derived standings. All of my Social skills are at level 5.
Caldari State from +4.11 to +4.39 = +4.7793% standing gained
Gallente Federation from +3.60 to +3.28 = -3.2509% standing lost
Amarr Empire from +3.83 to +3.97 = +1.4756% standing gained
Minmatar Republic from +4.19 to +4.05 = -1.356% standing lost
As you can see, the amount of standing gained is still higher than the amount of standing lost. Probably by the time all of the Event Agent missions are completed, the base standings might be up around +5.00 unmodified. Since the standings are still going up slowly, there's really no need to worry about the derived standings or the amount of positive gain verses the amount of negative loss.
However, I'll be sure to check this again after I complete some more missions.
Now about the formula's and information listed in the Evelopedia and EveWiki, I don't know where the EveWiki information originally came from. I do know that the Evelopedia had a lot of information copied by players (including myself) from the EveWiki which was also written and created by players. Now is the information contained in those sites accurate? Only CCP knows for sure. Both of those sites are subject to change at any time, especially since CCP loves to do stealth changes to the game including changes to the game mechanics.
Now I think that's about it for this subject.
As usual, I'll be sure to post my statistics and progress asap. Until then, I wish everyone much success and good luck.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.04 22:10:00 -
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Ad'Hakim Tahous, thanks and you're welcome.
That's a very good question.
This 'Plan' is mainly for repairing negative Faction standings to a positive level while maintaining the players current positive standings. Then after that, raising all positive Faction standings up higher.
As the amount of points left between the players current positive standing and +10 gets smaller, the percentage of standing gain also gets smaller.
This is just conjecture on my part and I don't have any hard facts to back this up but I think it would be better to save the agents who give the largest standing increase for last, that way the standings will still go up.
To me it seems it'll take longer to grind regular missions to raise the corporation standing up high enough to access the high level agent. With advancement from the lower level Data Center Agents on up to the higher level Data Center agents, the amount of time spent doing that should be a lot faster.
However, I could be wrong about this. Maybe you could test your theory out and report back on the results.
As always, I wish everyone much success and lot's of good luck.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.05 11:16:00 -
[144]
Just an update on my progress and statistics.
I've already completed 2 of the level 4 Cosmos Agents located in low security. 1 at Fort Kumar (Amarr/Caldari) and 1 at The Alliance Barracks (Gallente/Minmatar). Since it's been over 3 months when I last completed the level 1 Sisters of Eve Epic Arc, I decided to see about getting my Empire Faction standings a little bit more equal before I seriously got into completing the level 4 Event Agents.
While working the level 1 SoE Arc, I received 5 different Storyline Mission offers. 2 were for Sisters of Eve and 1 each for Gallente, Caldari and Minmatar. I declined the Minmatar Storyline offer due to it being Anti-Empire encounter mission. After completing those along with the level 1 SoE Epic Arc, my Empire Faction standings are close to being more equal now.
Empire Faction Standings: Modified (Base) Caldari State +5.50 (+4.37) Minmatar Republic +5.25 (+4.06) Amarr Empire +5.17 (+3.96) Khanid Kingdom +5.17 (+3.96) Gallente Federation +5.14 (+3.92) The Interbus +5.03 (+3.78) Ammatar Mandate +4.82 (+3.52) Concord Assembly +2.56 (+0.70)
Social Skills: Social lv 5 Connections lv 5 Fast Talk lv 5 Diplomacy lv 5 Negotiation lv 5
Security Status: +5.85
Data Center Tags completed: Minmatar = Angel Crystal and lower - need Gold Gallente = Serpentis Diamond and lower - need Brass and Gold Caldari = Guristas Crystal and lower - need Brass Amarr = Blood Crystal and lower - need Gold Ammatar = Sansha Crystal and lower - need Gold
Epic Arcs Completed: Level 1 Sisters Of Eve = 4x (1x Minmatar, 1x Amarr, 2x Gallente) Level 4 Amarr = Started Level 4 Caldari = Started Level 4 Gallente = Started Level 4 Minmatar = Started
Tutorial, Career, Circle Agents Completed: All Empire Factions
Cosmos Agents Completed: All Empire Factions = level 3 and lower
Special Agents Completed (Security Status): Christer Fuglesang = Concord Jeremy Tacs = Concord
I'll be working the level 4 Cosmos Agents doing the 'Bounce' action between the various Factions to hopefully raise and keep all of the standings close to equal. I'll be watching the standing gains and losses including the derived standings. If or when the amount of positive standing gain equals the negative standing loss, I'll be sure to post it.
Until then, I wish you all good luck working the 'Plan'.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.05 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tarassse Hi DeMichael Crimson. Great plan, I must confess, but I don't understand your statement "the amount of standing gained is still higher than the amount of standing lost"
While that's true in terms of %, you gained 0.42 standing (Amarr + Caldari) and lost 0.46 (Gallente + Minmatar)
Another thing that I'd like to know more about : You said a player can have +9.00 standing towards all four empire factions with this plan. Does this mean +9.00 with all four in the same time? If so, will you then be forced to decline every storyline to avoid crushing these standings?
Thanks for posting.
I'm not a mathematician and I don't have an explanation for those results.
I do know that this 'Plan' is like a coin with 2 very different sides. Right now there is only one side being viewed. There is still another side left which will complete the total amount of standing change.
On this side of the standings coin the total amount of percentage for standing gained and lost is: Amarr/Caldari +6.2549% gained Gallente/Minmatar -4.6069% lost
When the coin is flipped, the same thing will happen in reverse. Since there's 4 different Factions and standings involved, the only way to really see the correct results is to mission for each one of the 4 major Factions. Hence the reason for 'Bouncing' from the highest Faction standing to the lowest Faction standing. After all is said and done, all Faction standings will have moved up a little bit.
There is no fast way to gain super high Faction standings nor is there a fast way to raise negative Faction standings. If there is, I would surely like to know about it. As far as I know, this 'Plan' is still the quickest way to repair negative Faction standings as well as boost positive Faction standings.
By completing missions for all of the Event Agents listed in this 'Plan' and completing the Epic Arcs every 3 months, players should be able to raise the 4 major Empire Factions up above +9.00 standing. This will take a long time to complete of course.
If Players decide to also complete regular and storyline missions, then it'll take even longer to get the 4 major Factions up above +9.00 Faction standing. Of course it also depends on the type of storyline missions accepted. As always, if working this 'Plan', players should always decline all Anti-Empire Faction encounter missions.
Anyway, this is still just a 'Plan' and not a guide yet. As such, it is still subject to change and open to be edited at any time. If there is wrong information posted in the 'Plan', please report it and I'll be sure to post the correct information.
All I have left to complete are the level 4 Event Agents. So far my standings still continue to rise, be it ever so slowly. I don't intend on doing any regular missions unless it's needed to complete this 'Plan'. My main career path is exploration and this 'Plan' fit's in perfectly with that career.
Other than that, I really don't know what else to say except good luck and much success.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.09 00:25:00 -
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Well, I hope it works out great for you. Please keep us updated with your progress. Would be nice to know about a 'Short-cut' for this 'Plan'.
However, most players will be working this 'Plan' with an old character to raise up negative standings instead of starting with a new character that has neutral standings.
One of my goals for working this 'Plan' is to complete all Event Agent Missions, even if they don't really help with increasing my Faction standing. After that, I guess it'll just be the Epic Arc missions.
Again, best of luck to you.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.13 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: zerokmatrix Hi, I have just discovered your "plan" after searching all over for a reliable way to repair my faction standings. I have a very high Gallente/Minmatar standng and a very low Caldari/Amarr standing and I was begining to think I would never be able to travel to places like Jita, without being shot at, ever again. Only a few days have passed and I can now travel anywhere in empire. So i would like to say thank you for posting your plan and opening up the EVE universe again for me. I am very excited to see how far I can improve all my standings, with the aim of being able to complete the epic arc and cosmos missions for all 4 main factions.
zerokmatrix, gratz and you're welcome.
I'm glad the 'Plan' has helped you to once again travel safely in Empire space. I hope you have more good luck and much success.
DMC
Originally by: Cyno'in Local If you have decent standings towards all factions and just want to try and raise them all very high, is it worth focusing on 1 faction at a time or focusing on one "type of agent". For instance is it worth running ALL the Tutorial agents first for all factions then switch to do all the Career agents and move on down the list or should I just follow the plan as is?
Cyno'in Local, that's a very good question.
If you already have good standings with the main Empire Factions, you'll want to keep watch on them and do a round of each type of Event Agent for each Faction. For instance, if you do the Tutorial Agents for all Factions it should raise all standings. Then do the Career Agents, Circle Agents, etc. Since those Agents are level 1, you'll always have access to them.
When you get into the higher level Event Agents, you'll need to closely watch your standings and bounce to the lowest Faction when needed so as to not cut yourself off from having access. At various times I was bouncing back and forth between Factions while doing the level 3 Cosmos missions. Same goes for the higher level Data Center Agents.
I hope that answered your question. Good luck to you.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.13 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 13/06/2011 11:41:23
Interesting, to say the least.
Well, my base standings (unmodified) for all Empire Factions is still below +5.00 standing. Maybe I have reached a plateau for increasing the Faction standings with the Event Agents....I don't know. My standings are still slowly going up though.
If this is the case then completing the level 4 Cosmos Agents would do more damage than help.
Since I'm committed to completing all of the Event Agent missions, I guess we'll soon find out.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.15 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Stylez I've got a few questions.
First I'm trying to bring my Caldari and Amarr standings up from about -2.5ish.
I've done all the tutorial missions for Caldari and that raised my Caldari standings to -0.66.
Gratz, good to hear that.
Originally by: Eddie Stylez Now my question is did you seriously do all 600 career missions? Is it really worth spending all that time doing 10 missions for 1 small standings boost? That seems pretty brutal.
Yes, I've completed all the missions for all of the Career Agents. The point here is that every little bit of standing increase helps, no matter how small it is.
With higher skill level and of course a better ship fit with Tech 2 modules, most of those missions can be completed quickly and the reward items they give can be sold on the market.
Since you've already completed all 15 Tutorial Agents for Caldari, bounce to Amarr and do the Tutorial Agents. It doesn't take long to complete those missions. After completing those, check your standings. Then you'll have a better idea on what steps to do next.
Originally by: Eddie Stylez My other question is when you are talking about bouncing between factions. Should I keep bouncing down to my lowest standings faction, after doing a set of missions?
Bouncing to the lowest Faction standing is dependent on your highest Faction standing, to a point.
Example - You've completed most of the level 3 Cosmos Agents for Caldari and none for Gallente. Your Faction standing is +6.49 for Caldari and +3.49 for Gallente.
Faction standing of +3.00 is needed to access the level 3 Cosmos Agents.
This is where you would 'Bounce' from Caldari and start doing the Gallente level 3 Cosmos Agents. Caldari can be taken down to just above +3.00 standing which will still allow access to finish those Agents.
While completing missions for the higher level Event Agent's, always check your standings and do the 'Bounce' when needed.
Originally by: Eddie Stylez My ultimate goal really is just to raise my Caldari and Amarr standings high enough to run L4's. That way I'm not pigeon holed into running L4's in only 1 area of Empire.
Since your goal is just to have access to level 4 Agents, Faction standing above -2.00 is all that's needed. Then all you have to do is just build up Corporation standing above +5.00 for access to level 4 Agents.
The Event Agents listed in this 'Plan' could be used to help maintain Faction standings above -2.00 along with 'Bouncing' from one Faction to another doing one set of 16 regular missions + storyline for each Faction.
Originally by: Eddie Stylez Thanks! Wonderful Guide!
Thank you very much and you're welcome.
This 'Plan' isn't exactly a guide per say, it's more of an outline that lists all the Event Agents that give Faction standing increase and a few different ways to apply them. How this 'Plan' is used is entirely up to each player depending on their standings and what their goal is.
Anyway, I hope you have continued good luck and much success towards completing your goal.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.17 02:42:00 -
[150]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 17/06/2011 02:44:09
Just wanted to post the different Social skills and what they affect.
Social skill will increase your effective standing with all Agents, Corporations and Factions.
Diplomacy skill will raise your current negative standings with all Factions.
Connections skill will increase your current positive standings with Empire Factions.
Criminal Connections skill will increase your current positive standings with Pirate Factions.
Negotiation skill will increase the reward and standings gained for completing missions.
To help raise all negative Faction standings quickly, train Diplomacy, Social and Negotiation skills.
To help raise positive Empire Faction standings quickly, train Connections, Social and Negotiation skills.
To help raise positive Pirate Faction standings quickly, train Criminal Connections, Social and Negotiation skills.
To access high level Agents, maintain the Faction standing above -2.00 along with the required amount of Corporation standing.
Level 1 Agents = Available regardless of standings. Level 2 Agents = Above +1.00 standing. Level 3 Agents = Above +3.00 standing. Level 4 Agents = Above +5.00 standing. Level 5 Agents = Above +7.00 standing.
I'll have to see if I can include this info somewhere in the original 'Plan' pages.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.17 11:39:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Aston Martin DB5 Why don't you just ask for a sticky and stop bumping this?
I'm not going to ask for a 'Sticky'. Nor am I going to stop updating this thread which you refer to as 'Bumping'.
Originally by: Takseen I just finished the Amarr epic arc, choosing the Amarr empire path and didn't get a faction standings boost. Is this intended? If not, should I petition it or what?
Takseen, congratulations for completing the level 4 Amarr Epic Arc.
There has been reports of Faction standing increase not being received for completing the Epic Arcs.
Definitely file a petition asap.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.18 01:46:00 -
[152]
Lizzi Borden, that's excellent.
It always good to hear that this 'Plan' is helping players, especially within the first 24 hours of working it.
I hope you continue to have good luck and much success.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.19 11:35:00 -
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Keilateau Shakor, you're welcome and thanks for posting.
Feel free to refer this 'Plan' to other players who may need it.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.22 11:50:00 -
[154]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 22/06/2011 11:54:51
SmokingManEVE, you're welcome and thank you for letting me know about the missing Agents.
Wow, I hope CCP didn't take out those Tutorial agents giving the mission 'The Endless Battle'. Those agents are a major part when first working this 'Plan'.
I'll have to check up on this asap.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.23 02:42:00 -
[155]
This is indeed sad news. Thank you all for this information.
I've posted a question to CCP about those agents in a few different threads. Mainly if they could be given a new title (Political Liaison ?) along with a raise in pay to come back out of retirement. If not, are there any replacement agents that offer the same mission 'The Endless Battle'.
I'll probably have to send in a petition to get an Official response about this. Looks like I'll have to do some editing to the 'Plan'.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.25 05:09:00 -
[156]
SmokingManEVE, you're welcome and thanks for bringing it to my attention about the Tutorial Agents being retired.
Guess I could edit the 'Plan' now but first I'm going to try to get an official response from CCP about those Agents and their mission 'The Endless Battle'.
Good luck to you,
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.26 03:32:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Baraka Saibot Pfft, to much work.
New faction faction repair plan:
1) Insert coin. 2) Receive aurum. 3) Recieve faction standing.
This 'Plan' may very well be too much work for you (too complicated?). Now about your new 'Plan', I doubt that's a viable option.
If so, it'll be very expensive to say the least. Not to mention if it is available, will probably only work with Factions that the player currently has positive standings with.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.27 00:48:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Xylopia
Originally by: The history says, "DeMichael Crimson single-handedly compiled bits of shattered, hidden wisdoms into a great milestone that lead to true peace with most recognized powers of New Eden. In doing so, he so bravely rescued uncountable numbers of cursed souls from evil CCP's bloody hands that CCP's grudging evil groan is still heard these days"
Kudos to you DMC!
Looks like CCP has found a way to slow that down.
According to reports from CCP, the old 'Tutorial Agents' went into early retirement due to the new Aura NPE who has single handedly ended 'The Endless Battle' mission series. This is indeed sad news and a major set back to the 'Plan'. Personally, I think those Agents might have been executed by assassination.
I did a quick edit of the 'Plan' by breaking the link for the 'Tutorial Agents' and adding a note about them. I hope those Agents are still alive and can come back out of retirement in the near Future. If not, maybe some new replacement Agents will again offer that mission series 'The Endless Battle'.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:13:00 -
[159]
Tchal'la, that is indeed strange.
Maybe those Agents have just gone into hiding and Aura NPE is just covering for them?
One thing is for sure, there's no Faction standing increase obtained from Aura NPE. As a matter of fact, I was informed that one of the missions offered incurs negative standing towards the home Faction. Check your standings transactions and petition it if you incurred any.
Sure sounds like some sort of conspiracy going on right now.
Anyway, I'm sure this issue will be corrected very soon in the near future. As for getting some more agents to offer the mission series 'The Endless Battle' again, only time will tell.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.28 02:04:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Syphon Lodian So now that you can't do tutorial missions to get a leg up on standings (enough to just start basic L1 missions), then how exactly do you get out of negative standing at all?
I'm -5 with Amarr and Caldari (my mistake, I neglected it and didn't realize as I was plowing through Gallente missions), so how exactly do I raise this at all? Kill belt rats for 2 years?
Syphon Lodian, it's still the same 'Plan'. Just takes a bit longer now with the removal of the Tutorial Agents. 'The Endless Battle' missions could be completed very quickly when first working the 'Plan' for some quick Faction standing increase.
All Level 1 Agents are available to everyone regardless of standings.
When the Faction standing is above -5.00, safe travel can be done throughout that Factions space allowing safe access to all Level 1 Career, Circle, Data Center and Cosmos Agents.
As always, the very first step is train up Diplomacy, Social and Negotiation skills.
If Diplomacy is trained to Level 5 and all negative 'Unfriendly' Factions are still -5.00 or lower, find a Corporation belonging to the highest negative standing Faction that is located in your 'Friendly' space. Grind missions (16 + storyline) for a Level 1 Agent until one of the negative 'Unfriendly' Factions is above -5.00, then start working the 'Plan'.
If none of the 'Unfriendly' Factions Corporations are available, find a Faction that's friendly towards them that have Corporations located in 'Friendly' space and grind missions to gain derived positive standings. Eventually the negative 'Unfriendly' Faction standings will rise and when one gets above -5.00, start working the 'Plan'.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standings#Standing_Relationships
Hope this answers your question.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.29 05:17:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Normal citizen Is it possible to do the mission arcs multiple times?
Normal citizen, if 'Mission Arcs' refers to the 'Epic Arcs', then yes. Those can be completed every 3 months for Faction standing increase.
All of the missions offered by the other Agent types (Career, Data Center, Cosmos) listed in this 'Plan' can only be completed once per Agent for the life of your character.
For example - There's 15 Career Agents for each of the 4 main Factions. That is a total of 60 different Career Agents. You can only do missions once for each one of those 60 Career Agents.
Hope this helps. Good luck to you and much success working this 'Plan'.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.06.29 16:34:00 -
[162]
Good luck on the Epic Arc missions.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.02 01:09:00 -
[163]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 02/07/2011 01:13:37
Originally by: Normal citizen I did the gallente career missions, and I lost quite a lot of my caldari standing
Sorry to hear that but this is how the standings work. It's a 'Sea-Saw' action. This is the reason for keeping watch on the standings and 'Bouncing' between the Factions whenever needed.
I don't know what your standings are or what it is you're trying to do. There's plenty of Event Agents for each Faction to do one of four things.
1, Raise negative Faction standings above -2.00 standing to access higher level Agents.
2, Make all Empire Faction standings positive and close to equal.
3, Boost a specific positive Faction to a higher standing quickly.
4, Keep negative Faction standings above -5.00 (Temporary fix) for safe travel to continue doing Empire Faction encounter missions.
All of these can be done by completing selective missions for the Event Agents when needed. To answer your statement without knowing specific details of your standings - now complete all of the Caldari Career Agents.
Hope this info helps.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:21:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Normal citizen I'm trying to raise my gallente federation standing, but I don't want to lose my caldari state standing while doing that, as I've already worked so hard to get it to where it is. My Federation standing is high enough to not get shot at, but it's very hard to get my personal standing with federation agents high enough to get better agents
Well, you need above -2.00 Gallente Faction standing to access Gallente agents above level 1. Caldari will go down while bringing Gallente up. It's a give and take type of situation. Good point about this is that Amarr Event Agents will also add Faction standing increase to Caldari with very little loss to Gallente standing. However Minmatar Faction will get hit hard.
If you have above -5.00 Faction standing with all Empire Factions, you can do the SoE level 1 Epic Arc and complete it for Gallente to get +8.75% Faction standing increase with no standing hit to the other Factions.
I don't know what else to say except maybe train up Connections to help boost Caldari Faction standings while you work at raising up Gallente standings. Social and Negotiation skills will also help raise Gallente standings by increasing the reward gained from completing missions.
Good luck to you.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.02 19:59:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Delucian DMC - I am just trying to get my faction standing to the point where I can travel in Gallente space without them pew pew webbin me so I can join Red vs Blue for some PVP'ing.
My standing currently is -5.26 (was -7.38 before I trained Diplomacy ) Anyhow, where does it have to be before I can travel safely? (aka - what is my quickest route through your plan to improve it to just get me travelin around the Gallente cosmos?
Edit; BTW, very nice plan. Good to see players helping others (like me).
Delucian, thanks.
The Faction standing needs to be above -5.00 to travel safely in that specific Factions space.
If you haven't maxed out the Diplomacy skill yet, train another level. If it is maxed, hopefully Minmatar Faction is above -5.00 standing. If so, do a couple of missions for the Minmatar Event Agents until Gallente is above -5.00 Faction standing.
If Minmatar Faction standing is lower than Gallente, you'll have to grind regular level 1 missions (16 + storyline) for a Gallente Agent in a Corporation located in friendly space until the Faction is above -5.00 standing, then you can start working the 'Plan' to reach the desired amount of Faction standing wanted.
DMC
Originally by: Isabella Thresher hello, and thanks for the nice guide.
i am trying to get caldari standing above 0, while keeping my gallente standing high.
so i flew all 9 starter datacenter missions for caldari, and noticed that for every increase in caldari, i got a more than 50% decrease in gallente.
e.g.: 1.875% caldari increase and -1.1856% gallente decrease
does that mean that when constantly doing 16 gallente and 16 caldari missions, my standings will more or less keep the same, or do both rise, but slowly?
would you guys recommend me to do always 16 gal vs 16 cald or would you recommend me to do derived faction missions (e.g. sisters of eve lower caldari not as hard as a gallente storyline mission, but still raise gallente reasonably good) ? which approach is rising both factions faster?
there was a very interesting thread about this ( http://www.eve-search.com/thread/632650/page/1#2 ) but for me, this one question still needs an answer.
thanks for any comments! cheers!
Isabella Thresher, you're welcome. Your situation is similar to another player - Normal citizen - which is just a couple of replies above.
Since you've already completed the level 1 Data Center agents for Caldari, do the Amarr level 1 Data Center agents. That will lower the amount of negative Faction standings incurred by Gallente. For every positive Faction standing gained, that Factions enemy will incure a smaller negative Faction standing hit. The same applies to their allies.
Basically it's 1 step forward and 1/2 step back. This is the reason for keeping an eye on the standings and doing the 'Bounce' action. After 'Bouncing' round between all Empire Factions, the end result is about 1/2 step forward for all Factions.
While working this 'Plan' or just doing regular missions + storyline, always check the standings and 'Bounce' to the lowest Faction standing listed. The 16 + storyline missions might need to be done a couple of times for one specific Faction due to the type of storyline missions offered.
If you decline all encounter missions against Empire Factions and bounce around between the Factions when needed, all Faction standings will rise.
Completing missions for the Event Agents listed in this 'Plan' is the quickest way to raise Faction standings. I know a few players that go by the old method posted in that link. And it is an old method. Things have changed since the time that was posted.
As I've said before, this thread is just a 'Plan' and can be worked various different ways, depending on how far you want to take it.
I hope this has helped both of you. I wish you both good luck and much success.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.02 20:13:00 -
[166]
Originally by: QbusPuchatek Sisters of EVE Epic arc does not working. I do it today with no ANY standing changes. This can be a bug I wrote a petition and waiting on answer.
But i think that after patch CCP remove factions standings increase from all of the Arc,, so as removing utorial agents.
sorry for my English
QbusPuchatek, no need to be sorry about your English.
I understand you completely and thanks for the update. This last expansion has more bugs in it than all the other ones that I remember.
CCP will add a Faction standing increase for the arc as well as any other Event Agent mission listed in this 'Plan' if it's not added automatically. Just have to do what you did, file a petition in-game.
I hope CCP get's this straighten out asap.
Thanks again and good luck.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.03 04:58:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Tchal'la DMC,
One other source of faction standing you left out of the plan: The lvl 1 Data Center courier missions give you a signed graduation certificate. If you do a Show Info on it, it will give you a contact in another system to take it to. If you do, they will give you a 6-mission arc with an embedded 3-mission mini-arc. Both the mini-arc and the regular arc give faction standing.
Tchal'la, thanks.
I appreciate any and all efforts to find other sources of Faction standing increase.
However, if you check here, you'll see that information is already included in the 'Plan'.
Thanks again and please continue looking for any other ways to increase Faction standings or for URL guide links with more current information. As always, I'll be sure to update and edit this 'Plan' asap.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.04 01:28:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Delucian
Quote: Delucian, thanks.
The Faction standing needs to be above -5.00 to travel safely in that specific Factions space.
If you haven't maxed out the Diplomacy skill yet, train another level. If it is maxed, hopefully Minmatar Faction is above -5.00 standing. If so, do a couple of missions for the Minmatar Event Agents until Gallente is above -5.00 Faction standing.
If Minmatar Faction standing is lower than Gallente, you'll have to grind regular level 1 missions (16 + storyline) for a Gallente Agent in a Corporation located in friendly space until the Faction is above -5.00 standing, then you can start working the 'Plan' to reach the desired amount of Faction standing wanted.
DMC
Ok, did a few things first. Working on maxing out my Diplomacy skill. I went out to Gallente space to try to do tutorial missions, but I guess my standing is too low to be able to do that, could not get any agents.
So, in what you noted above, my standing with Minnie's is only a -1.38. So will getting one of their agents in Caldari space (I can find one in The Citidel), improve my standing with each mission? I tried getting a Gallente agent, and did some griding of L1's to get a Story Line, but after 16 missions and 1 SL, my status improved by .06!
Anyhow, just confirming (before I waste more time) that getting a Minnie agent will move this along. Also, will ratting in Gallente space help me any?
Thanks
Delucian, I think we have a communication breakdown.
I probably misunderstood what it is exactly that you want to do. I believe you said you wanted to raise Gallente Faction standing above -5.00 to safely travel in Gallente space without being attacked by the NPC Navy.
All level 1 Agents are available to everyone regardless of standings.
The 'old' Tutorial Agents have been retired by the new Aura NPE. The level 1 Event Agents (Career, Circle, Data Center and Cosmos) should be available to you. The URL links posted in this 'Plan' list the locations of the Event Agents. All Event Agents listed in this 'Plan' give Faction standing increase for completing their mission series. Most of them can only be completed once in the life of the character. Each standing increase for a specific Faction will incur derived standings (Positive and Negative) towards the other Factions. The only exception to that are the Epic Arcs. Ratting won't help raise Faction standings. Completing missions (16 + storyline) for regular Agents will take a long time since only the storyline mission will give Faction standing increase.
Going with the different options I had posted to you earlier, you should have been able to access the Gallente Event Agents safely. If no access to the Gallente level 1 Event Agents, file a petition in-game - character stuck.
Bottom line: Besides training the Social skills, you'll have to travel to the Event Agents and complete their mission series to quickly gain Faction standing increase.
I hope this clears things up for you.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.04 05:28:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Delucian DMC - thanks so much. It was probably my missunderstanding. No worries.
Anyhow, my next level of Diplomacy finished tonight and I am down to a -4.51, so problem solved.
However, I will keep your plan bookmarked for future reference.
I really appreciate your dedication to answering our questions.
Delucian, you're welcome.
Congratz on now being above -5.00 Faction standing. You should be able to travel safely to complete missions for the Event Agents.
Diplomacy skill is just a temporary fix. Completing Anti-Empire Faction encounter missions will cause the standing to drop back down below -5.00.
To access high level agents above level 1, need to have the required amount of Corporation standing with Faction standing above -2.00.
Level 1 = always available Level 2 = +1.00 standing Level 3 = +3.00 standing Level 4 = +5.00 standing Level 5 = +7.00 standing
Right now my advice is complete the Level 1 SoE arc for Gallente. It will give you +8.75% Faction standing increase with no derived standings incurred and can be completed every 3 months. Then later you can do the other Event Agent missions listed in this 'Plan' whenever needed to stay above -5.00 Faction standing.
Anyway, good luck to you in whatever you decide.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:12:00 -
[170]
Isri Gythral, you're welcome.
It's good to hear the 'Plan' helped you and thanks for posting.
I hope you have continued good luck.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:29:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Delucian
As a final question; Can I run most agent missions and avoid either event or storyline missions and keep my standing pretty neutral?
Well, if you decline all encounter missions against Empire Factions and decline all Storyline mission offers, yes the Faction standings will stay the same.
However, the Storyline missions usually have excellent rewards and would be a shame to decline all of those. The only Storyline missions I decline are encounter missions against Empire Factions.
I suggest you keep watch on your Faction standings and when needed, complete a few of the Event Agent missions listed in this 'Plan' to stay above -5.00 Faction standing for safe travel. Actually it would be better to keep Faction standing above -2.00 for access to high level agents since there's a limited amount of level 1 Event Agents available.
Another option is to 'bounce' between the Factions doing a set or two of 16 regular mission + storyline to help maintain Faction standings.
I hope this helps.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.08 21:45:00 -
[172]
Lizzi Borden, you're welcome and thank you very much for not bringing the ax down on me.
It's always good to hear how this 'Plan' has helped players. I hope you have continued good luck and much success with your career.
Thanks for posting and please feel free to refer the 'Plan' to other players who can benefit from it.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.09 11:46:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Merii Kha'sen Hey,
I just wanted to post and say thank you for this Plan - I'm working on getting my standing up just so I have locator agents in every place in the galaxy.
One question - is it possible to fix my standing with Sansha, etc. without tanking my Empire faction? I doubt it just looking at the standings charts, but I wanted to see if it was possible anyway.
Merii Kha'sen, you're welcome. I hope the 'Plan' helps you to quickly gain access to those Agents.
About repairing Sansha standing without tanking Empire standing, that's a very good question.
Besides training Diplomacy, the only option at this time to repair Sansha Faction standing with very little derived negative standings towards Empire is to start the Amarr level 4 Epic Arc and complete it for Sansha. That will give about +12.00% Faction standing increase which can be completed every 3 months.
Hope that helps.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.11 02:59:00 -
[174]
Originally by: lee boots this has been most helpful to me in the past so thought a bump would be in order : ) I pass this thread on to any body i see or hear of needing help : ) Gratz to a great thread and to all those reposting to help this along : ) o7 Fly safe
lee boots, thank you very much for posting this.
I appreciate and enjoy hearing that the 'Plan' is being referred to other players when needed. Please continue doing that as often as you like.
I wish you plenty of good luck and much success in your Eve career.
DMC
Originally by: Merii Kha'sen Hi,
One more question about this. When you say do all the level 1 data center missions, do you mean EVERY SINGLE ONE on the page http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Data_Centers?
Some of the tags are around 1 mil each for the level 1s, much less the level 2s through 4s. Any ideas on getting the tags without paying a ton?
This 'Plan' should be worked in sections for each specific Faction. Basically starting with the highest negative Faction above -5.00 standing. The 'Plan' states to complete all of the level 1 Data Center 'Cert' missions first, then complete the rest of the level 1 Data Center Agents (for that Faction).
Each Faction has about 7 or 8 different level 1 Data Center Agents located in 3 different systems. 3 of those agents offer the 'Cert' mission and the others offer the 'Tag' mission.
The original 'Plan' is only the first 4 posts but there's a lot more information contained within this entire thread due to questions, answers and feedback. The question about acquiring Tags is covered here.
Anyway, good luck to you. Hope this answers your question.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.17 02:35:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Kate Rygel The Amarr circle Agent quests do not give any Faction standings since the Incarna patch (one of the million bugs they introduced no doubt)
Kate Rygel. I don't doubt it. Seems a lot of the Event Agents that give Faction standing increase are not adding it automatically.
Only one Circle Agent in the group will give a Faction Standing increase. Doesn't matter how many times the circle is completed, the Faction Standing increase is only granted the first time by one Agent. One of the missions should have had 'Important Storyline mission' listed in the journal.
The amount of Faction standing increase is small (between 0.25% to 0.50%) and you might not notice it when looking at your Faction standings. Open Character sheet - Standings - Right click on the Faction and select 'Show Transactions'.
If this is the first time you've completed the Circle Agents and it's not listed, file a petition in game and ask for the Faction standing increase to be credited to the character.
I hope this problem of Event Agents not giving Faction standing increase is fixed asap.
Good luck,
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.07.18 04:24:00 -
[176]
Thanks guys, it's always good to see positive constructive replies posted in this thread.
DMC
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Hockston Axe, Thanks, I do admit to being very knowledgeable about standings but I wouldn't say I'm THE Standings Expert.
As for what you posted, yeah a brand new character wouldn't have to worry about it. But after a while the standings will still go down. Depending on which Faction is being built up, it could cause problems to safely enter into other Factions space. At -5.00 or lower Faction standing, Navy NPC's will attack. At -2.00 or lower Faction standing, no access to agents above level 1.
For Example: Thukker Tribe will cause: Ammatar Mandate drop to -7.00 Amarr Empire drop to -5.00 Kahnid Kingdom drop to -3.00 Caldari State drop to -2.00 Gallente Federation drop to -1.00
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Enkill Eridos, Thanks, hearing how this 'Plan' helped you as a brand new player is most excellent.
Good advice about the Cosmic_Anomaly. Yes, I agree that Pirate Faction Tags do drop more so in Cosmic Anomaly's than elsewhere. However, it's still a random drop and will take a long time to gain the required amount of tags needed for Data Center missions.
The above link, Cosmic Anomaly, has been recently updated with correct information.
Now about your Shameless Promotion: It's always good to have access to a Protection Service when needed. You've been added to my Contact list with excellent standing.
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.08.01 07:21:00 -
[177]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 01/08/2011 07:23:14
Originally by: Merii Kha'sen Edited by: Merii Kha''sen on 01/08/2011 04:03:18 How do I figure out where the break even point for derived standings is? Is it 10-abs(standing) for negative factions? For example, does that mean the max base faction standing (excluding minimal derived standing sources, such as epic arcs), before skills, for all of the 4 main empire factions is +5? Each of them has -5 against their opposite and -2 vs their opposite's ally.
Merii Kha'sen, thanks for posting.
The general consensus is that at +5.00 base standing the 2 opposing Factions will no longer advance in standing. The amount of standing gain for 1 Faction is equal to the amount of standing loss for the other. Bouncing between the 2 would just keep them equal.
I can't verify this and I'm no mathematician. CCP has done a lot of major changes to the game recently. This Standings_mechanics page has the formula's. Hopefully it's still correct and hasn't been changed by CCP.
This Standing_Relationships table is updated to match the current Inter-Faction standings.
Since the Epic Arcs can be repeated every 3 months for Faction standing increase with little to no derived standings incurred towards the other Factions, the base standings can get much higher than +5.00. It'll just take time.
DMC
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Originally by: Bree Badasaz
Bree Badasaz,
Why the mad face?
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.08.01 10:04:00 -
[178]
K Minor,
Thanks. The best way to check is to bring up the agent info box while in game. I already had access to all of the lv 4 epic arc starting agents before the agent expansion patch was done so it doesn't list the required standings for me.
However, I had someone else in game check the level 4 epic arc starting agent standing requirement and it states:
> Your personal standings must be +5.0 or higher towards this agent, it's faction, or it's corporation in order to use this this agent's services. <
I also had that player check the level 3 Empire Faction starting agent for the Pirate epic arc which stated players need +3.0 or higher standing needed.
I then checked the Pirate Faction starting agent info box which stated above -2.0 standing is needed.
I'm not sure why the lv 3 Empire agent and the lv 3 Pirate agent show different standing requirements. Maybe it's due to my having -6.0 modified standings towards the Pirate Factions since Faction standing needs to be above -2.0 to access higher level agents. Or maybe CCP has made the Pirates easier to access.
I do know that logging out and then logging back into the game is usually required after gaining the required amount of standing. That allows the server to update the characters current standings and gives the character access to the agent.
Anyway, please post an update on the standing requirement for the new level 4 epic arc agent.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.08.02 10:03:00 -
[179]
Killer Zenobia, Thanks.
I'm glad the 'Plan' helped you.
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Originally by: XDarkzz Edited by: XDarkzz on 02/08/2011 05:38:15
Originally by: DeMichael Crimson
Right now my advice is complete the Level 1 SoE arc for Gallente. It will give you +8.75% Faction standing increase with no derived standings incurred and can be completed every 3 months.
I'm sorry for bringing this thread back but I'm kind of lost, how do you go about doing the SoE arc for Gallente and can it only be done for Gallente or can I do it for Minmatar also? Also I seem to be researching it up a bit but I can't seem to find out an answer... Does it give faction standing or is it just something you can do for fun and other rewards?
P.S. I'm sorry if I am making you repeat something if it previously already been answered...
XDarkzz,
No need to be sorry.
The SoE level 1 Epic Arc has an option towards the end of it for players to choose 1 of the 4 major Empire Factions (Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar) for Faction standing increase. The arc can be repeated every 3 months and players can choose a different Faction each time or go with the same Faction as before.
The SoE level 1 Epic Arc has players travel throughout all Factions high security systems so to complete it safely without being attacked by Navy NPC's, all Empire Faction standings should be above -5.00 standing and the players personal security status should be above -2.00 standing.
I hope this has helped clear things up for you.
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K Minor,
Thanks for the update. If there's any doubts about the info listed in this 'Plan', please feel free to post it. I'll be sure to research it asap.
I hope you have good luck doing the Epic Arcs.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.08.03 12:17:00 -
[180]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 03/08/2011 12:17:43
Originally by: Octarius Eskravu Edited by: Octarius Eskravu on 02/08/2011 21:15:08 Hi DMC...what about pirate factions? what can be done to raise that? there are no COSMOS, data centers, etc ( i think ) ... so it all comes to grind L1s to get storylines until your faction gets positive? or is it other strategies?
PS- the pirates im seeking standings are the Serpentis FYI
Octarius Eskravu, that's a very good question.
According to this, Serpentis have a +8.00 standing with Angel Cartel.
To get positive standings with Serpentis without a lot of grinding, first stop killing Serpentis. Having Diplomacy, Criminal Connections, Social and Negotiation skills trained up will help a lot.
Since Angel and Serpentis like each other, complete the Angel Cartel level 3 Pirate Epic Arc for +30% (base) Faction standing increase. That should unlock the higher Angel Cartel agents.
Angel Cartel has 5 different Cosmos agents, completing those missions will give positive derived standings to Serpentis. Pirate Cosmos Agents
After completing those missions, it shouldn't take very long to gain access to high level Serpentis agents.
Hope this info helps and good luck to you.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.08.17 02:55:00 -
[181]
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 17/08/2011 02:55:46
Substantia Nigra,
You're very welcome.
That's excellent info to hear. I'm glad the 'Plan' is working for you and I wish you much success working it in the future.
Sorry you didn't know about the 'Plan' before you started working on your rehabilitation.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.08.25 11:36:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Caren Patriach Edited by: Caren Patriach on 25/08/2011 04:52:19 can i ask a little bit sir DMC?
1. epic arc can only done for standing each time for 3 month? 2. aside of epic arc and data center also cosmos that once a lifetime mission what is best to faction repair plan ( more effective and faster ) 3. i have a bunch of elektra tag. can i do one of the data center mission for faction repair repair repeatly?
thanks a lot
Caren Patriach, good questions.
1. Yes, Epic Arcs can be repeated every 3 months for Faction standing increase with little to no derived standings towards the other Factions.
2. The Data Center 'Cert' and 'Tag' missions are the fastest way to gain Faction standing if you have plenty of ISK available.
3. No, only the Epic Arcs can be repeated. All of the other Event Agents listed in the 'Plan' can only be completed once during the characters lifetime.
The 'Plan' is basically already set up to follow with a few different options available depending on how you want to proceed. If you have a surplus of a specific Pirate Tag, sell the extra to help pay for other Tags.
I hope this info helps and I wish you much success.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.09.04 11:09:00 -
[183]
Hello everyone, guess the new forums are going to be reactivated again.
I'll make sure to post a more detailed version of this 'Plan' on the new forums.
DMC
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.09.09 00:43:00 -
[184]
vandyne, thanks for posting.
Faction standing increase is not shared between Fleet members. Only the character who accepted the Agent mission will get the Faction standing increase.
All Fleet members will get Corporation and Agent standing increase along with a share of the rewards.
Hope this info helps.
DMC
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